Your technique is to make a million flawed arguments.Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael
Your technique is to make a million flawed arguments.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
no blood, no foul
I'd say an eye injury is equivalent to blood. This is apparently third domestic incident involving Green. The dude has problems and needs a time out, followed by anger management therapy.
Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
He had to undergo anger management counseling following a domestic incident in 2005. Might need a refresher course.
Must have clicked on the wrong shit. Threads wasn't suppose to be locked. Thanks for pointing it out 31.
For the most part I agree; that includes bruising. A bruise means it isn't just a slap.
I don't know what happened, I'm just trying to articulate a difference between a hit that injures and a slap. I've never hit a woman, but my wife has slapped our kids on rare occasion. I didn't think she needed to be jailed.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Neither fish nor fowl.
The report said the police report said there was bruising around the eye. You don't get that from a slap. The distinction between what is legally permissible (discipline) and what is assault usually rests on whether or not the force leaves a lasting mark (such as bruising), whether or not the action could be reasonably construed as intended to give a lesson (so hitting a child in anger would count as abuse), and whether or not the person inflicting the pain is in control. It sounds like Ahman fell on the wrong side of the law on at least two and probably all three of those criteria. The child is a teenager. I wonder how long this pattern has been going on.....
I have seen people bruise from less than a slap. You can't generalize what causes a bruise without knowing the individual.
Now that's a Green Bay Smacker!!!
Man where Nutz or skinbasket? Bunch of pussies here like PBMax and zool. So what if he had to put her little ass down. You mofos know how teenagers can be. He didn't break anything and bruising ain't shit.
Here is an example of a metastudy of spanking. Its conclusions are not entirely black-and-white and it finds that a large number of the studies done were flawed--not because they were politically motivated, as you assume, but probably because they were simply poorly conceived--but it still finds persuasive evidence of correlation between spanking and negative behavior.
Don't be too hasty in dismissing self esteem or in assuming that you know what someone else understands when they speak of it.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...bout-spanking/
I'm usually pretty hasty; you're just going to have to live with it.
There's a depth to corporeal punishment that shouldn't be missed. Drive by comments like Zool's look foolish. There are spankings that little kids get (smacks on their behind) that serve as a negative reinforcement when they do something dangerous like walk into the street. These are highly effective. There's actual punishment, like 5 hard shots with a belt for doing something pretty bad (this is the form things took in our house growing up). There's no doubt it was a strong reminder about consequences for bad behavior; I can report that it prevented bad behavior on my part. There are all sorts of bad hitting - the uncontrolled outbursts are all bad, even if they don't do damage , because having a parent out of control is really what sends a strong negative message. (based on history, I suspect this is true in the Green case).
On another note, there was a time when my brother and I were getting a little older (10-12 maybe), my Mom tried to spank us and she was so ineffective that my brother and I just laughed at her. It was all fun and games until Dad got home. Sort of a double backfire.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
So my opinion is different than yours so it's foolish. Then Hoosier sites the same studies i've read to form my opinion and it's now feasible? You must be a blast in conversation.
I still stand by my original statement. If you need to hit, you've lost and you've taught your child that hitting gets your desired effect.
I think you can do better than a lot of your shallow drive-by posts, that's all I'm saying.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
My time to post is limited. I try to interject opinion when I can.
Probably there are plenty of homes where spanking is done, and the kids turn out fine. But maybe that is because the parents are caring and attentive, and that overrides the pointless destruction of hitting the kids. We'll never know from studies.
Anecdotally, I was spanked as a kid and turned out splendidly. But is that because of my core strengths, my steely resolve to do good in the world? We can never know.
That explains a lot.
I was spanked for real, not anecdotally.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Based on this new evidence you provided I am strongly reconsidering changing my opinion from spanking to straight up drown them at birth.
Be honest HH, you have always been the runt in your family.
Haters gotta hate.
I'm gonna shake it off, shake it off.
I prefer to:
shake it up
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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