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    King was in with the 1's and House yesterday after Gunter got hurt deep on the first day by Adams/Rodgers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Saturday was 37 when he started games for us in 2012. Evans is 3 years younger. I don't think he'll fall off a cliff like Saturday did.
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    True, but for some reason guards don't hang around as long. I researched it and posted about it a while back here or elsewhere, perhaps even when Sitton was cut. Looking back several years there weren't even many guards over 30 who played a lot, and there were just a handful at 33. I don't think there was a single one 35 or older other than in a backup role. For centers, there was always a few 35/36 still hanging around and playing. There were more older tackles, too. I wondered if it might be because by and large tackles and centers had more athletic players.
    Just 1 person's opinion but...

    http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...amp/540727001/

    When the Packers signed 37-year-old Jeff Saturday to start at center in 2012, there were signs early in camp he’d hit the wall. By season’s end, he no longer was the starter. No such red flags so far with six-time Pro Bowler Jahri Evans, who turns 34 later this month and is replacing T.J. Lang at right guard. Evans has been a crafty run blocker and fine in pass protection, though he had two false start penalties Saturday night.

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    Quarterbacks (2): Aaron Rodgers, Brett Hundley,
    PS: Hill

    Running backs (4): Ty Montgomery, Jamaal Williams, Aaron Jones, Aaron Ripkowski
    PS: Mays

    Receivers (7): Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Trevor Davis, Jeff Janis, G Allison, DeAngelo Yancy
    PS: Clark, Dupree

    Tight end (3): Martellus Bennett, Richard Rodgers, Lance Kendricks,
    PS: Beau Sandland

    Offensive line (8): David Bakhtiari, Bryan Bulaga, Corey Linsley, Jahri Evans, Lane Taylor, Jason Spriggs, Don Barclay, Kyle Murphy
    PS: Kofi Amichia

    Defensive line (6): Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Ricky Jean Francois, Dean Lowry, Montravius Adams, Brian Price

    Outside linebackers (6): Clay Matthews, Nick Perry, Jayrone Elliott, Kyler Fackrell, Vince Biegel, Justin Gilbert
    PS: Calvin

    Inside linebackers (3): Jake Ryan, Blake Martinez, Joe Thomas


    Cornerbacks (6): Davon House, Kevin King, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, Josh Hawkins, Lenzy Pipkins
    PS: Waters

    Safeties (5): Morgan Burnett, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Josh Jones, Kentrell Brice, Marwin Evans

    Specialists (3): Mason Crosby, Justin Vogel, Goode

    -Praying we finally let Gunter go, guy just doesn't have the speed to be a play maker at this level.

    -Didn't really like keeping 7 WR but Janis is too vauable on special teams(our new Bush) and Davis has proven to be a play maker as a return man. Don't trust either as WRs though which is why I think they will keep 7.

    -I would like to see Tripp make the team at MLB but think he'll be one of the last cuts and we go into the season with only 3 true MLB since we have other guys who can fill in their (Matthews, Burnett, Jones).

    -Could also see Mays and Jones switching spots at RB depending how both play the upcoming weeks.

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    I saw the projections in the Urinal Scented today, and I wondered why they have Richard Rodgers as a lock. Could you go with two tight ends and keep, say, Christian Ringo instead? He seems to be on the outside looking in according to the Urinal, but he seems to have some pass-rushing potential. Better go with that than a TE who, as they say, is what he is? And couldn't Ringo do the same ST work that Rodgers would do, minus the hands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    I saw the projections in the Urinal Scented today, and I wondered why they have Richard Rodgers as a lock. Could you go with two tight ends and keep, say, Christian Ringo instead? He seems to be on the outside looking in according to the Urinal, but he seems to have some pass-rushing potential. Better go with that than a TE who, as they say, is what he is? And couldn't Ringo do the same ST work that Rodgers would do, minus the hands?
    Nah, I think RichRod is a lock. He's a serviceable TE if one of the other two get hurt, and he plays a key role on some of the ST units (including the hands team!). Cut him and he will sign elsewhere, and then when Kendricks breaks a leg you'll be scanning the waiver wires for someone not named Bostick.

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    Can't play a two TE offense and cary only one TE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Can't play a two TE offense and cary only one TE.
    Bennett and Kendricks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Bennett and Kendricks?
    One backup I meant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Can't play a two TE offense and cary only one TE.
    Of course you can...Patriots did

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    Shit if we kept 3 in 2015 they probably would have another SB ring

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    Its been a long week apparently. My math and logic skills have abandoned me. And typing and communication aren't in much better shape.

    The final correction of my original point was that I don't think its wise to plan to run a lot of 2 TE offense without at least one backup. I doubt M3 wants less than 3 TE; he might want 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon494 View Post
    Shit if we kept 3 in 2015 they probably would have another SB ring
    good point; we used that last roster spot well
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    8 O linemen, 3 TEs, 7 WRs, 3 QBs, 3 Kicking game spec., 4 RBs, 1 FB, 6 D Linemen, 5 OLBs, 3 ILBs, 6 Corners, 5 Safetys - This position breakdown seems about right to me. We could easily keep 3 QBs and 7 WRs or maybe even 2 QBs and 8 WRs, and still do justice to all other position groups.
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    Wilde has a roster out: http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/f...8892ba74e.html

    Locks
    QB (2 or 3): Aaron Rodgers, Brett Hundley
    RB (4 or 5): Ty Montgomery, Jamaal Williams, Aaron Ripkowsi
    WR (6 or 7): Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Davante Adams, Geronimo Allison, Jeff Janis
    TE (3 or 4): Martellus Bennett, Lance Kendricks, Richard Rodgers.
    OL (8 or 9): David Bakhtiari, Lane Taylor, Corey Linsley, Jahri Evans, Bryan Bulaga, Jason Spriggs, Kyle Murphy

    Offense gets 24 or 25 spots, 20 claimed so far. 4 or 5 from bubble below. Wilde has Murphy, Janis, Allison and Ripper as Looking Good. Because I agree with him and they are logical picks, I have upgraded them to locks listed above.

    Quarterbacks (need 1 roster, maybe PS)
    On the bubble: Joe Callahan, Taysom Hill

    Running backs (need 1 or 2)
    On the bubble: Joe Kerridge, Aaron Jones, Devante Mays, Kalif Phillips, William Stanback

    Wide receivers (need 1 or 2)
    On the bubble: Trevor Davis, DeAngelo Yancey, Malachi Dupre, Max McCaffrey, Michael Clark, Montay Crockett, Colby Pearson

    Tight ends (maybe 1)
    On the bubble: Emanuel Byrd, Aaron Peck.

    Offensive line (need 1 or 2)
    On the bubble: Don Barclay, Kofi Amichia, Thomas Evans, Geoff Gray, Justin McCray, Lucas Patrick, Adam Pankey, Robert Leff.
    Last edited by pbmax; 08-26-2017 at 03:14 PM.
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    I don't see any interesting position battles this year.

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    Wilde Roster cont'd: http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/f...8892ba74e.html

    Defense: Gets 24 or 25, Specialists 3

    Locks:
    DL (5 or 6): Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Ricky Jean Francois
    LB (9 or 10): Clay Matthews, Nick Perry, Jayrone Elliott, Kyler Fackrell, Joe Thomas, Jake Ryan, Blake Martinez
    DB (10 or 11): Morgan Burnett, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Kentrell Brice, Josh Jones, Davon House, Damarious Randall, Quinten Rollins, Kevin King, Josh Hawkins
    Specialists (3): Mason Crosby
    Looking good: Brett Goode, Justin Vogel

    That's 20 claimed spots for Defense. Need 4-5 more from bubble. Wilde had Biegel, Martinez and Ryan as looking good. Both ILBs had a good camp and will stick. Biegel might find out the rules of PUP early this year.

    Wilde also had Hawkins, Evans and Gunter as looking good. They need another 2 CBs on his roster above the locks listed earlier to get to the now normal 6. I think Hawkins is #5 and put him above under locks.

    Emphasis on hybrid safety play might change final numbers. I think Evans is a better prospect than Gunter and if they go safety heavy, he might be DB 10 (5 S, 5 CB) ahead of Gunter. Specialists are just a question of Goode's continued health and Vogel not getting more unpredictable.

    Defensive line (need 1 or 2)
    On the bubble: Montravius Adams, Christian Ringo, Brian Price, Izaah Lunsford, Calvin Heurtelou (bet my bottom dollar Adams gets IR)

    Linebackers (need 2 or 3)
    On the bubble: Vince Biegel, Jordan Tripp, Reggie Gilbert, Johnathan Calvin, Cody Heiman, Josh Letuligasenoa, Derrick Matthews, David Talley (bet that Biegel, unless ultra ready, starts on PUP)

    Defensive backs (need 1)
    On the bubble:: LaDarius Gunter, Marwin Evans, Demetri Goodson, Donatello Brown, Daquan Holmes, Lenzy Pipkins, Raysean Pringle, Aaron Taylor, Jermaine Whitehead (Gunter has been better in practice of late, and if they carry 6 CBs, which they have before, its his spot. But I think Evans is the better player overall)

    Specialists (need 0)
    On the bubble: Derek Hart (Hart only makes it if Goode collapses or gets hurt. Vogel has the job unless he falls to pieces and another functional punter becomes available. So he is essentially still auditioning for his job)
    Last edited by pbmax; 08-26-2017 at 03:35 PM.
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    interesting on D; so many liked Gunter last year. I was listening to a Packer beat writer who's watched several practices compare CB's

    He noted Gunter is the ultimate technician with a great attitude. But talent wise and speed wise he noted Hawkins is just much more talented and King is more talented than Hawkins as well
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    Montravius Adams is a lock; he's Ted's 3rd round draft pick. He'll make the team. Nuff said.

    GB is also said to like his pass rushing ability.. as well
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    Regarding Gunter, he did a fairly good job last year as the team's #1 Corner. It shouldn't be surprising that some people like him despite the lack of speed.

    That Wilde roster above seems way off on the numbers by position. I wouldn't be surprised if we keep 3 QBs and the 4th on the practice squad. Wilde seems to think only 4 or 5 RBs including fullback? I really see all three draft picks making the team plus Montgomery and Ripkowski. The toughest cut will be WR. Of the 10 or so maybe worth keeping, I see them putting Dupre on the Practice Squad, making a choice between Davis and McCaffrey, and possibly keeping a total of 8 after the first week when Allison is available. For the O Line, they almost have to keep Barclay or Patrick (I hope Patrick), as there aren't any other trained centers after Linsley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Montravius Adams is a lock; he's Ted's 3rd round draft pick. He'll make the team. Nuff said.

    GB is also said to like his pass rushing ability.. as well
    Unless they give him a redshirt year.
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