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    Which scoring system do we follow?
    Its a Point Per Reception league with pretty standard scoring except that I am toying with the idea of 6 points for QB TDs (previously its been 4 pos) and docking 4 points for turnovers instead of 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Its a Point Per Reception league with pretty standard scoring except that I am toying with the idea of 6 points for QB TDs (previously its been 4 pos) and docking 4 points for turnovers instead of 2.

    Details here: http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...otball-2017-18
    -4 pts per TO should be a nonstarter...

    It gives the elite QB's far too much of an advantage... you could make the argument then that Rodgers should be the #1 pick.... it skews things too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    you could make the argument then that Rodgers should be the #1 pick
    who the hell else should be?
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    Rodgers should be the #1 QB pick (its either him or Brady usually). But drafting a QB early in the first round (other than prime age Peyton Manning, Rodgers in 2011 or 2007 Brady with Moss) is a big opportunity cost.

    Most leagues have 10 or 12 teams. Each of those teams needs 1 QB. There are 32 of those guys available, not all of whom will start every game but most of whom will throw a large volume of passes. The way that QBs are scored (esp. 4 points per TD, 1 or 2 points deducted for TO) means that the gap between the top QBs (Rodgers/Brees/Brady) and the bottom (I won or nearly won a fantasy league with Blake Bortles' garbage time extravaganza) isn't that huge a number.

    Tradition and current league setup dictates your team will have 2 RBs and 2 or 3 WRs. There aren't enough top end backs to give each team two, nor enough top end WRs to get each team to three. For those positions, there aren't reliable difference makers by Round 4 and you are hopeful to get someone reliable without much risk. To get top production from RB or WR after Round 3, you need to draft some risks. In most drafts you can get Rodgers or Brady early in 3 and Ben or Brees in the fourth. In a Wisconsin league Rodgers is probably gone earlier.

    The most logical way to deal with this is a league that requires you to start 2 QBs each week. Then the shit hits the playing time fan. Most players hate that setup for that very reason. 6 points for QB TDs and bigger deductions for turnovers (QB always lead the league in TOs) is a way to make the difference between the top QB and the 12th QB wider.

    Rewards teams that invest in a QB earlier.
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    I'd keep the scoring setup the same. Very few are going to watch to change to something that isn't widely accepted and doesn't have many experts that rank players with that scoring setup. I don't have a lot of time to devote to see how that scoring setup will change the consensus rankings
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    it would be frickin awesome to have 2 QB starters !! Keep scoring the same but make every team start 2 QB's
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    looks like we are close to having two 8 team leagues
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    The problem with -4 per TO isn't so much that it inflates the value of a guy like Rodgers, it's that it completely kills the value of guys like Rothlesrapist and Stafford, et al.

    Suppose Rodgers throws 3 tds 0 picks and Rothlesrapist throws 3 and 3... in 4,2 scoring the difference is 6 pts; in 6,4 scoring the difference is 12.

    That's a big enough spread - that over the course of a season anyone that doesn't have Rodgers, Brady, or Brees is unlikely to be able to compete.

    It's simply too big a variable at 1 position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    The problem with -4 per TO isn't so much that it inflates the value of a guy like Rodgers, it's that it completely kills the value of guys like Rothlesrapist and Stafford, et al.

    Suppose Rodgers throws 3 tds 0 picks and Rothlesrapist throws 3 and 3... in 4,2 scoring the difference is 6 pts; in 6,4 scoring the difference is 12.

    That's a big enough spread - that over the course of a season anyone that doesn't have Rodgers, Brady, or Brees is unlikely to be able to compete.

    It's simply too big a variable at 1 position.
    But a scoring system that treats the QB more equitably, isn't telling you anything about their respective talents (for FF purposes anyway).

    We'll see. The only notes I am getting back are against. So we might wait a year to consider it again.
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    Just keep it the way you had it planned PB. No reason to do a bunch of changing last minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    But a scoring system that treats the QB more equitably, isn't telling you anything about their respective talents (for FF purposes anyway).

    We'll see. The only notes I am getting back are against. So we might wait a year to consider it again.
    As I pointed out, it's not more equitable... it's skewed toward the elite QB's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    As I pointed out, it's not more equitable... it's skewed toward the elite QB's.
    Did we get docked last year for INT's ? I should probably read the rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Did we get docked last year for INT's ? I should probably read the rules
    I think -2... that's standard.
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    Turnovers should be -2 only.
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    Not to be bitchin, but. It would be kind of nice to know when we draft.

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