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    Studs & Duds - Packers vs. Seahawks

    Studs

    Mike Daniels - Pretty Much Unblockable.

    Morgan Burnett - Excellent overall, especially the play where he threw the receiver out of bounds for incompletion.

    Dom Capers - He seems to have Russell Wilson's number.

    Aaron Rodgers - Not a memorable game, but played really well in the 2nd half.

    Randall Cobb - Tough catches all over the field.

    Jordy Nelson - 7 catches and a TD.

    Nick Perry - 1.5 sacks and good pressure overall.

    Duds

    Coverage and return units contributed to field position woes in 1st half.
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    I would add:

    Studs

    Kyle Murphy - Wasn't great, but held his own against a tough Seattle defense in his first start
    The defense - Had some lapses but played very well

    Duds:

    MM's clock management at the end of the first half
    Fat Eddie - Gorging on concession stand bratwurst before the game and it showed
    Aikman and Buck - Their anti-Packer bias was in full display today. Sticking up for Peter Carroll under any circumstances is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    I would add:

    Studs

    Kyle Murphy - Wasn't great, but held his own against a tough Seattle defense in his first start
    The defense - Had some lapses but played very well

    Duds:

    MM's clock management at the end of the first half
    Fat Eddie - Gorging on concession stand bratwurst before the game and it showed
    Stud: Bratwurst Guy.

    I now cringe when MM calls a timeout right before the half because he thinks he's gonna get the ball back.
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    STUD:
    Vogel - had some really nice punts...one out of the end zone went past the 50, that's huge!
    Daniels - played like a man
    Perry - Keeps getting better
    DB's - Had 1 bad series in the 1st half, but other than that, solid. swarm tackling, aggressive to the ball. I liked it.
    Murphy - Can't compliment a 2nd year player who never sniffed the field last year enough for what he did.
    Martellus Bennett - I don't care if it was cheap, he stood up for his QB at the end to he game. brings an attitude this team needs.
    Nelson/Cobb/Adams- Doin what they do.
    Montgomery - Not flashy, but almost 60 yards rushing and almost 40 receiving...if he averaged that all year I think he is real dangerous.
    Rodgers - 1st half bad, but looked ready in 2nd half.

    Duds...

    Refs - Weird game.



    To any Florida people, stay safe! Blessed to have planned to have our friends here today to watch the game with us from near Naples, Florida. They are lucky to have gotten out, but prayers up to all those down there, and still those in Texas and the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ND72 View Post
    STUD:
    Vogel - had some really nice punts...one out of the end zone went past the 50, that's huge!
    Daniels - played like a man
    Perry - Keeps getting better
    DB's - Had 1 bad series in the 1st half, but other than that, solid. swarm tackling, aggressive to the ball. I liked it.
    Murphy - Can't compliment a 2nd year player who never sniffed the field last year enough for what he did.
    Martellus Bennett - I don't care if it was cheap, he stood up for his QB at the end to he game. brings an attitude this team needs.
    Nelson/Cobb/Adams- Doin what they do.
    Montgomery - Not flashy, but almost 60 yards rushing and almost 40 receiving...if he averaged that all year I think he is real dangerous.
    Rodgers - 1st half bad, but looked ready in 2nd half.

    Duds...

    Refs - Weird game.



    To any Florida people, stay safe! Blessed to have planned to have our friends here today to watch the game with us from near Naples, Florida. They are lucky to have gotten out, but prayers up to all those down there, and still those in Texas and the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Hubby and I evacuated all the way up to GB. We are staying at his brother's place waiting for power to be restored. We got lucky as hell and our house was spared damage as far as my neighbors can tell from the outside.
    Major congratulations.

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    I want to put in a good word for Fackrell. Had a great fumble recovery and had one or two key pressures.
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    Duds - troy and buck for bringing up the 'bad' calls about ten times. they sounded like bitching fans rather than announcers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Duds - troy and buck for bringing up the 'bad' calls about ten times. they sounded like bitching fans rather than announcers
    They don't usually bother me the way they do some people. Today though was an exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    They don't usually bother me the way they do some people. Today though was an exception.


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    Dud kind of-Clay, never really heard his name all day.

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    Studs: Rodgers, Montgomery, Cobb, Nelson, Daniels, Perry, Randall, Rollins, Capers

    Duds: no Packers in a major way; Josh Jones was dangerously out of position as end man on at least two kick offs, Jahri Evans - not as good as I had hoped, Kendricks - sorry, but I like Richard Rodgers better than him
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Jahri Evans - not as good as I had hoped
    That was the one fly in the ointment for me. Man, if that guy is the starter, how bad are the backups?

    Maybe we got spoiled last year having 6 good linemen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    That was the one fly in the ointment for me. Man, if that guy is the starter, how bad are the backups?

    Maybe we got spoiled last year having 6 good linemen.
    Interestingly enough...Evans graded out as one of the Packers top 5 performances by PFF. I've never really followed their ratings in the past so I can't comment on how they are calculated...just passing along the info.

    TOP 5 GRADES:
    Edge Nick Perry, 89.8 overall grade

    LB Blake Martinez, 87.0 overall grade

    DI Mike Daniels, 86.6 overall grade

    WR Jordy Nelson, 81.8 overall grade

    RG Jahri Evans, 79.1 overall grade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    so I can't comment on how they are calculated...just passing along the info.
    It must be like golf - low score wins - otherwise my scouting skills would be called into question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Interestingly enough...Evans graded out as one of the Packers top 5 performances by PFF. I've never really followed their ratings in the past so I can't comment on how they are calculated...just passing along the info.

    TOP 5 GRADES:
    Edge Nick Perry, 89.8 overall grade

    LB Blake Martinez, 87.0 overall grade

    DI Mike Daniels, 86.6 overall grade

    WR Jordy Nelson, 81.8 overall grade

    RG Jahri Evans, 79.1 overall grade
    Martinez graded higher than Daniels? Did Daniels have some bad plays too and Martinez was always assignment perfect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Interestingly enough...Evans graded out as one of the Packers top 5 performances by PFF. I've never really followed their ratings in the past so I can't comment on how they are calculated...just passing along the info.

    TOP 5 GRADES:
    Edge Nick Perry, 89.8 overall grade

    LB Blake Martinez, 87.0 overall grade

    DI Mike Daniels, 86.6 overall grade

    WR Jordy Nelson, 81.8 overall grade

    RG Jahri Evans, 79.1 overall grade
    Packers coaches did not agree, said Daniels and Perry graded out the best on Defense.
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    What a beautiful game. Who's supposed to be the bad-asses and who are the softies again?

    Rodgers 28/42/311 - and the masterful TD to Nelson after yet another fake-huddle quick-snap 12-men-on-the-field opportunity. He was holding the ball too long in the first half and that mostly ended in the second half when they remembered that the quick-release timing plays are the way to get things going.

    How about that 9-minute offense to close out the game? Against Seattle's D? Epic. When this team gets leads, they don't lose - and they've got all the tools to be better than ever.

    Monty with the BEASTLY catch and then run through Thomas’ tackle attempt. 95 HUGE all-purpose yards and a powerful goalline TD – a bunch of big plays at clutch times that were difference makers in that game.

    Williams had a couple nice runs to move the chains in his limited action.

    Cobb and Nelson showed they know how to make big first-down catches and had big days.

    Cobb 9 for 85 yds.
    Nelson 7 for 79 and a TD.

    It seemed like all 16 of 'em were clutch too.

    And I’d say Marty B. earned himself some serious trust points with Rodgers with 3/43 - including the big-gain for the dagger. And then he goes after guy who had the audacity to hit Rodgers downfield. Dumb play by itself but that’s the kind of don’t-fuck-with-us attitude that guys rally around – and that great teams tend to have.

    Adams can separate from press coverage with the best of ‘em. He threw arguably the best press cover-corner in the league - Sherman for a loop on that slant in the 2nd half. Who can stop that if not Sherman? More quick slants in his future. 4/39. He’ll have his plays this year but APRH he could be the guy whose opportunities are sacrificed by fact that there are more playmakers than ever and still only one ball.

    And how about Daniels? Holy shit. He just decided it was time for him to single-handedly take that game over. 7 tackles (5 solo – all of which he seemed to throw the poor schmucks trying to block him to the side - 1.5 sacks and the forced fumble that basically won the game. Fack showed his athleticism snatching the hot potato coming his way. How many times have we seen guys fail to recover balls just lying there?

    Perry was physically dominant too. 1.5 sacks and he had to have 4 or 5 pressures on top of that. The whole front 7 had Wilson watching them and trying to avoid getting pounded for most of that game.

    And they dominated Seattle’s run game. Other than the one really nice cutback by Carson where he escaped 4 or 5 guys to the outside for 30 yards and the Wilson scramble for 29 - Seattle’s other 16 attempts got them a whopping 31 yards.

    Jake Ryan got taken off the field in the 2nd half because they made Seattle so one-dimensional after getting the lead, but he set the tone early with some pounding tackles stuffing the run early.

    Eddie Lacy might be done running behind that line. He can’t make people miss quickly enough. I think Carson and Rawls are gonna be their guys.

    House gave up some plays I thought. And he was lucky they couldn’t connect a few more times. Randall and Rollins both had tight coverage all day I thought and both tackled well. Rollins had 8 tackles (4 solo) and Randall had 6 – all solo.

    And the safeties were all over the place. It seemed like there was about 10 of them out there. Burnett, Clinton-Dix, and Bryce - active and everywhere - In the box, at the line of scrimmage, big hits down the deep sideline, breaking up 3rd down passes down the middle against bigger TE’s at the sticks, denying Jimmy Graham in the endzone, knocking balls out in the back of the endzone.... Jimmy Graham had a whopping 3 cathces for 8 yards today. Nullified.

    Josh Jones can’t contain himself on kickoff coverage. Too young and aggressive and lost his contain twice for sure. He’ll figure that out though, and he’s going to add to this safety group’s ability to control games as the season goes on.

    ……………......……….Seattle………..Green Bay
    First Downs.......……12…………………26
    ……by Rushing….......3………………….8
    …...by Passing......….8……………….16
    …..by Penalty.......….1………………..2
    3rd Down Efficiency….3/12…..9/16
    Total Net Yards……..225…………..370
    # Plays……........……48………………..72
    Rushing Plays…......18………………28
    Runs for Loss..……4 for -9……..1 for -1
    Passing Yds…….....158……………..311
    Sacks Allowed…..3 for 23 yds……4 for 24 yds. – all in 1st Half
    Touchdowns.......……0……...........2
    Time of Possession.20:47………………39:13

    Other than the offensive ineffectiveness in the first half (that’s a serious defensive unit) which they remembered how to overcome in the 2nd half by getting the ball out quicker and in rhythm - and a couple big plays the defense allowed that helped Seattle get into field goal range – that was a serious can of whoop ass Seattle got themselves sprayed all over with. It’ll be interesting to see how often that happens to that offensive line – offensive being the operative word - by other defenses this year. I assume they’ll get better, but that was quite the ass-kicking.

    Atlanta’s offense obviously won’t be quite that shitty. I’d say the Packers match up a ton better with Atlanta this year though – at least up the middle of the field - with all those safeties playing everywhere. Not sure how they hang with Jones, Sanu, etc. outside though. House better sharpen up his game. King will eventually be a much better match-up, but I fear for his safety next week.

    No better test for a defense that will have a little swagger going in. We’ll see pretty quick if it’s real of fake I'd say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    Eddie Lacy might be done running behind that line. He can’t make people miss quickly enough. I think Carson and Rawls are gonna be their guys.
    It's only one game, but the guy is a dead weight. I'm glad he's not the Packer's problem anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    What a beautiful game. Who's supposed to be the bad-asses and who are the softies again?

    Rodgers 28/42/311 - and the masterful TD to Nelson after yet another fake-huddle quick-snap 12-men-on-the-field opportunity. He was holding the ball too long in the first half and that mostly ended in the second half when they remembered that the quick-release timing plays are the way to get things going.

    How about that 9-minute offense to close out the game? Against Seattle's D? Epic. When this team gets leads, they don't lose - and they've got all the tools to be better than ever.

    Monty with the BEASTLY catch and then run through Thomas’ tackle attempt. 95 HUGE all-purpose yards and a powerful goalline TD – a bunch of big plays at clutch times that were difference makers in that game.

    Williams had a couple nice runs to move the chains in his limited action.

    Cobb and Nelson showed they know how to make big first-down catches and had big days.

    Cobb 9 for 85 yds.
    Nelson 7 for 79 and a TD.

    It seemed like all 16 of 'em were clutch too.

    And I’d say Marty B. earned himself some serious trust points with Rodgers with 3/43 - including the big-gain for the dagger. And then he goes after guy who had the audacity to hit Rodgers downfield. Dumb play by itself but that’s the kind of don’t-fuck-with-us attitude that guys rally around – and that great teams tend to have.

    Adams can separate from press coverage with the best of ‘em. He threw arguably the best press cover-corner in the league - Sherman for a loop on that slant in the 2nd half. Who can stop that if not Sherman? More quick slants in his future. 4/39. He’ll have his plays this year but APRH he could be the guy whose opportunities are sacrificed by fact that there are more playmakers than ever and still only one ball.

    And how about Daniels? Holy shit. He just decided it was time for him to single-handedly take that game over. 7 tackles (5 solo – all of which he seemed to throw the poor schmucks trying to block him to the side - 1.5 sacks and the forced fumble that basically won the game. Fack showed his athleticism snatching the hot potato coming his way. How many times have we seen guys fail to recover balls just lying there?

    Perry was physically dominant too. 1.5 sacks and he had to have 4 or 5 pressures on top of that. The whole front 7 had Wilson watching them and trying to avoid getting pounded for most of that game.

    And they dominated Seattle’s run game. Other than the one really nice cutback by Carson where he escaped 4 or 5 guys to the outside for 30 yards and the Wilson scramble for 29 - Seattle’s other 16 attempts got them a whopping 31 yards.

    Jake Ryan got taken off the field in the 2nd half because they made Seattle so one-dimensional after getting the lead, but he set the tone early with some pounding tackles stuffing the run early.

    Eddie Lacy might be done running behind that line. He can’t make people miss quickly enough. I think Carson and Rawls are gonna be their guys.

    House gave up some plays I thought. And he was lucky they couldn’t connect a few more times. Randall and Rollins both had tight coverage all day I thought and both tackled well. Rollins had 8 tackles (4 solo) and Randall had 6 – all solo.

    And the safeties were all over the place. It seemed like there was about 10 of them out there. Burnett, Clinton-Dix, and Bryce - active and everywhere - In the box, at the line of scrimmage, big hits down the deep sideline, breaking up 3rd down passes down the middle against bigger TE’s at the sticks, denying Jimmy Graham in the endzone, knocking balls out in the back of the endzone.... Jimmy Graham had a whopping 3 cathces for 8 yards today. Nullified.

    Josh Jones can’t contain himself on kickoff coverage. Too young and aggressive and lost his contain twice for sure. He’ll figure that out though, and he’s going to add to this safety group’s ability to control games as the season goes on.

    ……………......……….Seattle………..G reen Bay
    First Downs.......……12…………………26
    ……by Rushing….......3………………….8
    …...by Passing......….8……………….16
    …..by Penalty.......….1………………..2
    3rd Down Efficiency….3/12…..9/16
    Total Net Yards……..225…………..370
    # Plays……........……48………………..72
    Rushing Plays…......18………………28
    Runs for Loss..……4 for -9……..1 for -1
    Passing Yds…….....158……………..311
    Sacks Allowed…..3 for 23 yds……4 for 24 yds. – all in 1st Half
    Touchdowns.......……0……...........2
    Time of Possession.20:47………………39:13

    Other than the offensive ineffectiveness in the first half (that’s a serious defensive unit) which they remembered how to overcome in the 2nd half by getting the ball out quicker and in rhythm - and a couple big plays the defense allowed that helped Seattle get into field goal range – that was a serious can of whoop ass Seattle got themselves sprayed all over with. It’ll be interesting to see how often that happens to that offensive line – offensive being the operative word - by other defenses this year. I assume they’ll get better, but that was quite the ass-kicking.

    Atlanta’s offense obviously won’t be quite that shitty. I’d say the Packers match up a ton better with Atlanta this year though – at least up the middle of the field - with all those safeties playing everywhere. Not sure how they hang with Jones, Sanu, etc. outside though. House better sharpen up his game. King will eventually be a much better match-up, but I fear for his safety next week.

    No better test for a defense that will have a little swagger going in. We’ll see pretty quick if it’s real of fake I'd say.
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