More Banjo: Week 2 @ Atlanta

[Harlan Huckleby]

Maybe somebody more expert than me can do this. If you combined Green Bay and Atlanta's WRs, what would be pecking order for top five?

[pbmax]

Maybe somebody more expert than me can do this. If you combined Green Bay and Atlanta's WRs, what would be pecking order for top five?

1. Jones
2. Nelson (healthy version)
3. Adams
4. Cobb
5. Sanu

[mraynrand]

1. Jones
2. Nelson (healthy version)
3. Adams
4. Cobb
5. Sanu

I think Sanu and Adams are pretty close, but I'd give the nod to Adams. Cobb can't get open on his own, except for maybe a quick hitch.

[hoosier]

I think Sanu and Adams are pretty close, but I'd give the nod to Adams. Cobb can't get open on his own, except for maybe a quick hitch.

Cobb can't bring his arm across the midline right now. Put him down below Atlanta's blocking TE.

[woodbuck27]

1. Jones
2. Nelson (healthy version)
3. Adams
4. Cobb
5. Sanu

That's about right...some may flip Cobb and Sanu.

[yetisnowman]

1. Jones
2. Nelson (healthy version)
3. Adams
4. Cobb
5. Sanu

The problem is the gap between Julio and Jordy is massive, whereas the gap between Jordy and and Sanu is relatively negligible. Nobody is scheming or game planning much for our skill position players. Which I think has proven to be an issue for years now.

[Harlan Huckleby]

1. Jones
2. Nelson (healthy version)
3. Adams
4. Cobb
5. Sanu

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...ons/678417001/

But the greater advantage is at the skill positions on offense. In Julio Jones, the Falcons have the best receiver in the game. Their No. 2, Mohamed Sanu, might be as good as any of the Packers’ receivers.

Eric Baranczyk saw it like me. I don't study the NFL, but my eyeballs yesterday said the Atlanta receivers are quick, good route runners.

[pbmax]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...ons/678417001/

Eric Baranczyk saw it like me. I don't study the NFL, but my eyeballs yesterday said the Atlanta receivers are quick, good route runners.

He's big and he is a good route runner with decent hands.

His average value for 6 years in the League is 26. Cobb had 38 in four years and stands at 52 for six. Davante Adams is 19 after 3.

As red would say, the Packers are allergic to covering inside routes unless its Burnett or Hyde.

[Harlan Huckleby]

His average value for 6 years in the League is 26.

Please don't tell me this "average value" is some fantasy football thing. Say it ain't so.

I find opinions of what is seen on the field more interesting. Not that all opinions are equally well based. Things change year-to-year, and an observer can account for whether a player's productivity is due to his individual skill or team factors.

[hoosier]

Please don't tell me this "average value" is some fantasy football thing. Say it ain't so.

I find opinions of what is seen on the field more interesting. Not that all opinions are equally well based. Things change year-to-year, and an observer can account for whether a player's productivity is due to his individual skill or team factors.

Come on you sleepy mutt, time to emerge from your kennel and enter into the 21st century. Value is DVOA, a football outsiders advanced stat (Defense-adjusted Value over average?), the football equivalent of baseball's WAR.

[mraynrand]

Come on you sleepy mutt, time to emerge from your kennel and enter into the 21st century. Value is DVOA, a football outsiders advanced stat (Defense-adjusted Value over average?), the football equivalent of baseball's WAR.

WAR, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing!

[pbmax]

Come on you sleepy mutt, time to emerge from your kennel and enter into the 21st century. Value is DVOA, a football outsiders advanced stat (Defense-adjusted Value over average?), the football equivalent of baseball's WAR.

I could look those up too, but average value here is from Pro-Football-Reference.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Come on you sleepy mutt, time to emerge from your kennel and enter into the 21st century. Value is DVOA, a football outsiders advanced stat (Defense-adjusted Value over average?), the football equivalent of baseball's WAR.

Ah, when an entertainment comes down to stats and computer models, it alienates more people than it attracts. It becomes information gathering.

I tried a fantasy league with a sport I follow closely (college wrestling.) I like to win. It distracts from appreciation of the sport, you worry too much about your allegiance to your fantasy team.

[pbmax]

Please don't tell me this "average value" is some fantasy football thing. Say it ain't so.

I find opinions of what is seen on the field more interesting. Not that all opinions are equally well based. Things change year-to-year, and an observer can account for whether a player's productivity is due to his individual skill or team factors.

I agree Baranczyk makes it a point worth debating. Sanu had a good game. But in part that is by design as the Packers would rather Sanu catch all the balls rather than Jones.

Average value is a very rough measure of player success. Its partially dependent on stats specific to a position, but also takes into account things like postseason recognition. Its not the end all of the argument. But Sanu has been underused compared to the other two. If he is a talent on par with them, his teams haven't figured it out yet.

[Harlan Huckleby]

dp

[bobblehead]

Maybe somebody more expert than me can do this. If you combined Green Bay and Atlanta's WRs, what would be pecking order for top five?

Julio Jones, Jordy Nelson....everyone else. But Julio is near god like....and he is playing against our cbs