Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
I could be wrong but my understanding of the rules are that the ball is placed at the spot it's at when the play ends. That includes crossing the goal line, going out of bounds, when forward progress is stopped, and/or when any body part between and including the forearms and knees.

If they're saying Elliott was down at the point progress was stopped, then he was down before he stretched the ball. If they're saying progress hadn't yet been stopped at that point, then he pulled the ball back before he was down.
Either way I think they got that call wrong.
It is that way for OOB.

For plays in bounds, forward progress counts while and after you are in contact with the defense. If they throw you back and you begin running again, then you have reset your progress. This is why I think smuggler has a point about WHEN Elliot was touched down.

I have no idea how to read if Elliot just hut the turf while falling down on his own guys. Does forward progress count if there is no defensive contact?