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    ...and then get hurt and turn into Marshall Newhouse by week four.
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    This just into my E-Mail Inbox and for what it's worth:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...m_campaign=nfl

    Matt Miller's Scouting Notebook: Who Is the Best Player in 2018 Draft?

    MATT MILLER ..........FEBRUARY 16, 2018

    9. San Francisco 49ers (coin flip): LB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech

    10. Oakland Raiders (coin flip): CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State

    11. Miami Dolphins: QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma

    12. Cincinnati Bengals: LB Roquan Smith, Georgia

    13. Washington: LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State

    14. Green Bay Packers: EDGE Marcus Davenport, UT-San Antonio

    15. Arizona Cardinals: OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame

    16. Baltimore Ravens: WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama

    17. Los Angeles Chargers: OT Connor Williams, Texas

    18. Seattle Seahawks: G/C Billy Price, Ohio State
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    I don't think he watched enough Packer games. The last thing the Packers need is a guy tailor made for the slot.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...nd-predictions

    14. Green Bay Packers: Denzel Ward, Cornerback, Ohio State

    The Packers ranked dead last in the NFL at stopping opponents' No. 1 receivers and 26th at stopping their No. 2 receivers, according to Football Outsiders. Injuries at cornerback were a huge part of the problem, but projected starters Damarious Randall and Quinten Rollins have never been consistent, Davon House is about to enter free agency and the bottom of the depth chart is full of names like Lenzy Pipkins.

    Denzel Ward is a mighty-mite type: undersized at 5'10", 191 pounds, but with the physicality of an enforcer on the edge of the defense. Drop him in the slot, and he'll throw his body around against the run while demonstrating range and alertness as an underneath defender. Move him outside and he can grow into a shutdown corner, albeit one who will have to be moved around to avoid size mismatches against Julio Jones types.

    This is a safe, down-the-middle choice by the standards of the Packers, who often listened to the music of the spheres when Ted Thompson ran the draft. Look for new GM Brian Gutekunst to be a little more conventional as the Packers try to rebound from a season that exposed their reliance on Aaron Rodgers.
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    Most of what is wrong on defense was due to Dom Capers and the outgoing coaching staff... it's tough to tell what we really have in terms of talent b/c of how misused everyone was.

    That said, we do know some things...

    Ryan is maxed out as a backup/ST's guy - has no business in an NFL starting lineup.

    Martinez is average, probably needs to be replaced. Maybe some coaching can help him - he's better than Ryan, and occasionally shows some ability, but overall he's not shown he should be a starter in the league.

    Randall is a one-trick pony, can't tackle, takes bad angles, and just isn't a very good football player. Needs to be replaced.

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    Tackling overall has always been an issue since Capers has been there, and some of that has to do with the skirt-wearing style of players the Packers have preferred in the past. Hopefully with a new staff coming in, we'll see some fundamental changes in approach and attitude.

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    As for players in this draft - I don't want Davenport at all. I just don't see him having enough quickness or any other outstanding quality that puts him in the 1st round. To me, from the little tape that I've watched, he looks like a low-round, undrafted FA type.

    Been hearing some buzz too about Darius Leonard, LB, South Carolina State... but I didn't like what I saw of him either.

    Front seven guys I've looked at that I've like so far are...

    Leighton Vander Esch, LB, Boise State
    Arden Key, LB/Edge, LSU
    Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
    Tremaine Edmunds, LB, Virgina Tech
    Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, LB, Oklahoma
    Harold Landry, LB/Edge, Boston College
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    I agree that Ryan is nothing special. Martinez is above average now.

    I would have to disagree on Randall. He may have had his issues, but he has the most potential of any of our CB's right now. Does he achieve it? I guess we'll find out.

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    LOL, wist lists 6 top 45 players as the guys he likes. Well no shit sherlock :-p

    This is a really deep ILB class. Lots of good players here. I have to imagine the Packers pick two ILBs in the first 5 rounds or so simply because the talent is too good. Pass rushers are going to be tough to come by I think though. My gut feeling is if Edmunds is there, you can't pass him up. He's like Peppers with the size and speed. It's just rare. I doubt he will be, though. He's not a pass rusher so he won't go #1, but he will be top 5 I think. Some of the beat writers like Landry, they say he has great bend.

    I wouldn't mind any of those peeps except for Key. Seems to be a head case. Roquan Smith is an absolute animal.

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    wist has never seen a field hockey game.

    At least watch Meatballs wist. Those girls are brutal.
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    Running some mock drafts - Man we have a lot of picks this year, hopefully we do the trade up thing...

    1: LB TREMAINE EDMUNDS - VIRGINIA TECH
    2: WR JAMES WASHINGTON - OKLAHOMA STATE
    3: TE DALLAS GOEDERT - SOUTH DAKOTA STATE
    4: DL TIM SETTLE - VIRGINIA TECH
    5: LB DAVIN BELLAMY - GEORGIA
    6:CB DJ REED - KANSAS STATE
    7: LB JACK CICHY - WISCONSIN
    8: DL POONA FORD - TEXAS
    9: G SKYLER PHILLIPS - IDAHO STATE
    10: EDGE ANDREW BROWN - VIRGINIA
    11: CB JORDAN THOMAS - OKLAHOMA

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    or another

    14: LB ROQUAN SMITH GEORGIA
    45: EDGE CHAD THOMAS MIAMI (FLA.)
    76: TE MARK ANDREWS OKLAHOMA
    101: CB JC JACKSON MARYLAND
    116: CB QUENTON MEEKS STANFORD
    152: G WYATT TELLER VIRGINIA TECH
    173: OT GEORGE SENAT WAGNER
    175: TE DURHAM SMYTHE NOTRE DAME
    177: S JESSIE BATES WAKE FOREST
    189: LB AZEEM VICTOR WASHINGTON
    232: WR STEVE ISHMAEL SYRACUSE
    239: QB NIC SHIMONEK TEXAS TECH

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    Suddenly hearing a lot about this guy:

    Leighton Vander Esch - LB - Boise St.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profil...sch?id=2560232

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Suddenly hearing a lot about this guy:

    Leighton Vander Esch - LB - Boise St.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profil...sch?id=2560232
    is he this years great white hype?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    is he this years great white hype?
    You mean like Urlacher?

    There are now 4 potential ILB's who could be possible picks for the Packers: Roquan Smith, Tremaine Edmunds, Rashaan Evans and Vander Esch. Unusual depth for that position.
    Last edited by Joemailman; 03-04-2018 at 12:28 PM.

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    DRAFT RISER ALERT. Texas Tech's Nic Shimonek(QB) was the surprise star of the drills. His dropback and delivery are smooth and quick, and his anticipation and accuracy were consistently strong. The 6'3" Shimonek has the size and athleticism to play at the NFL level. Don't rank him among the top five just yet, but Shimonek should be on the middle-round watch list for teams seeking long-term prospects. (Hello, Patriots.)
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    http://draftanalyst.com/combine-notes-day-5

    According to teams, Leighton Vander Esch has been crushing interviews and continues to impress people. After weighing in at 256 pounds and completing 20 reps on the bench, the Boise State linebacker is hoping to run under 4.7 in the 40-yard dash. Truth be told, anything at or below 4.75 would be a great time. I’ve been told the Green Bay Packers are very high on Vander Esch and that he won’t get past the Pittsburgh Steelers in Round 1.

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    So, is #14 to high to draft a guy with only one hand?

    Cause shaquem griffin just ran a 4.38

    And I the bowl game I watched of him, the guy flat out dominated

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    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    So, is #14 to high to draft a guy with only one hand?

    Cause shaquem griffin just ran a 4.38

    And I the bowl game I watched of him, the guy flat out dominated
    Everybody seems to have him rated a Day 3 pick. A great 40 time won't change that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Everybody seems to have him rated a Day 3 pick. A great 40 time won't change that.
    i have a feeling his stock is gonna go up

    he's one of those guys that impresses at the combine and makes people go look at his tape. and the tape is impressive, guy is everywhere on the field

    like i said, one or two hands, the guy can flat out play

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    i have a feeling his stock is gonna go up

    he's one of those guys that impresses at the combine and makes people go look at his tape. and the tape is impressive, guy is everywhere on the field

    like i said, one or two hands, the guy can flat out play
    If he's going to play 3-4 OLB, I guess the biggest question would be whether he can fight off NFL offensive tackles with one hand. On the bright side, he would be 50% less likely to get flagged for illegal use of the hands.

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    coutland sutton a 6'4 wr out of SMU might be someone we should be looking at, he had a really good combine

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