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    Landry doesn't do enough to warrant the 14th pick in the draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    Landry doesn't do enough to warrant the 14th pick in the draft
    You're nutz, Nutz

    Landry has the quickness, and can get low and bend enough to be a serious threat off the edge. You can't coach that. The other stuff can be coached up. I'd definitely take him at 14.

    I wouldn't consider Davenport before the 4th round.
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    Landry's measurables are comparable to Matthews, and he looked better on film than I thought he would. I'm not ready to say he's CMIII though. He didn't look that good. There are things to like though. Again, with the dearth of pass rushers in this draft he'll continue to rise.

    Harold Landry = 6'2 1/4" 252, 4.64 40, 24 bench reps, 36" vertical, 119" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone, 4.19 short shuttle
    Clay Matthews = 6'3" 240, 4.62 40, 23 bench reps, 35 1/2" vertical, 121" broad jump, 6.90 3 cone, 4.18 short shuttle

    Tremaine Edmunds is the guy I want, but after the combine I don't think there's any way he drops to #14. Not sure if it's worth trading up for him though. Davenport is a crap shoot. I'll have to dig into Josh Sweat's film after his combine performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Landry's measurables are comparable to Matthews, and he looked better on film than I thought he would. I'm not ready to say he's CMIII though. He didn't look that good. There are things to like though. Again, with the dearth of pass rushers in this draft he'll continue to rise.

    Harold Landry = 6'2 1/4" 252, 4.64 40, 24 bench reps, 36" vertical, 119" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone, 4.19 short shuttle
    Clay Matthews = 6'3" 240, 4.62 40, 23 bench reps, 35 1/2" vertical, 121" broad jump, 6.90 3 cone, 4.18 short shuttle

    Tremaine Edmunds is the guy I want, but after the combine I don't think there's any way he drops to #14. Not sure if it's worth trading up for him though. Davenport is a crap shoot. I'll have to dig into Josh Sweat's film after his combine performance.
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    Does anyone have the 10 yard split for Landry? Because outside of motor, that quick get off was Matthews most dominating skill.
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    Does anyone have the 10 yard split for Landry? Because outside of motor, that quick get off was Matthews most dominating skill.
    Landry had a good split of 1.58. I think he was second to Josh Sweat in that category. Matthews had a ridiculous 1.49 split.

    Chubb had 1.63u. Davenport had 1.63u.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Does anyone have the 10 yard split for Landry? Because outside of motor, that quick get off was Matthews most dominating skill.
    What's Landry's Wonderlic score, even though the Wonderlic is kinda racist and it doesn't measure football IQ?

    Leaked sources say the Claymaker scored 27. However, I'd argue that the Claymaker's most dominating trait is his high football IQ. Dude is one smart motherfucker on the football field.

    I know, Deputy Nutz hates the Claymaker b/c of his penchant for freelancing. But if the Claymaker sees a bootleg coming presnap, who gives a fuck that his assignment is to cover the flat? Just attack the QB, as the Claymaker did to Sanchez in the Packers' dismantling of the Chip Kelly Eggles 2 or 3 seasons ago (Sanchez ran a bootleg and an Eggle reciever was WIDE OPEN - thank Zeus the Claymaker freelanced and sacked Sanchez).
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    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...l-seven-rounds

    The Packers today have these Picks:

    Round 1: Pick NO 14 overall.

    Round 2: Pick 13 and NO. 45 overall.

    Round 3: Pick 12 and NO. 76 overall.

    Round 4: Pick 14 and NO. 114 overall.

    Round 4: Pick 33 and NO.133 overall (Compensatory)

    The Green Bay Packers also have Picks: 150, 172, 174, 186, 207, 232 and 239.

    So that's a Total of 12 Picks and THREE in the Top 76 Draft eligible Prospects.

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    03/06/18 - 2018 NFL Combine Winners: Harold Landry, DE, Boston College...After leading the FBS in sacks in 2016, Landry had a forgettable senior season due to injury. However, he helped remind scouts why he is deserving of first-round consideration. At 6-2 and 252 pounds with 33-inch arms, Landry ran a 4.64 40-yard dash with a 1.58 10-yard split, 6.88 three-cone and 36-inch vertical. Cut from the same cloth as Vic Beasley, Landry should hear his name called on night one of the draft. - Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com


    Matthews ran a 1.49 split. He looks rail thin at 250 lbs.
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    Yeah it does seem that Landry has excellent bend for rounding the edge. I agree with that.

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    My list for 14
    1. Derwin James SS: Probably not going to be there but you never know the way the draft falls
    2. Minkah Fitzpatrick DB: He can play any where in the secondary, if he drops to 14 the Packers should scoop him up
    3. Denzel Ward CB: Great feet and vision. I don't like his frame all that much, I like CB that can tackle but the Packers need a shut down type corner in the passing game
    4. Roquan Smith LB: On paper and on film he is the only true linebacker I would consider with the 14th pick. Packers lack speed at the position and he brings the athleticism and speed
    5. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Edge: 3:4 pass rusher. He uses his hands well, wears down against big athletic tackles. needs to keep his feet.
    6. Quenton Nelson G: No one would be happy with this pick, but the Packers have a holes on their offensive line and he is the best in the draft. He would be an immediate starter at right guard.
    7.Tremaine Edmunds LB: I don't know why he is so highly rated, I guess if he is ranked in the top 5 I will "Trust" the experts.

    Other guys
    Joshua Jackson CB
    Jaire Alexander CB
    Mike Hughes CB
    Marcus Davenport Edge,
    Rashaan Evans LB
    Taven Bryan DL
    Leighton Vander Esch LB
    Harold Landry Edge
    Courtland Sutton WR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    My list for 14
    1. Derwin James SS: Probably not going to be there but you never know the way the draft falls
    2. Minkah Fitzpatrick DB: He can play any where in the secondary, if he drops to 14 the Packers should scoop him up
    3. Denzel Ward CB: Great feet and vision. I don't like his frame all that much, I like CB that can tackle but the Packers need a shut down type corner in the passing game
    4. Roquan Smith LB: On paper and on film he is the only true linebacker I would consider with the 14th pick. Packers lack speed at the position and he brings the athleticism and speed
    5. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Edge: 3:4 pass rusher. He uses his hands well, wears down against big athletic tackles. needs to keep his feet.
    6. Quenton Nelson G: No one would be happy with this pick, but the Packers have a holes on their offensive line and he is the best in the draft. He would be an immediate starter at right guard.
    7.Tremaine Edmunds LB: I don't know why he is so highly rated, I guess if he is ranked in the top 5 I will "Trust" the experts.

    Other guys
    Joshua Jackson CB
    Jaire Alexander CB
    Mike Hughes CB
    Marcus Davenport Edge,
    Rashaan Evans LB
    Taven Bryan DL
    Leighton Vander Esch LB
    Harold Landry Edge
    Courtland Sutton WR
    Yea, I saw Derwin go to us in a few early mocks and few posters here talked about him, but I would say no way possible he gets to 14. If he did, I would get excited.

    My heart says reach for the best pass rush we can get at 14, but my brain says take the bpa. You never know where your holes will be in 2 years, so you put as much talent as possible on your roster and try and fill holes any way you can.

    Based on most mocks I have seen the bpa will be a cb. But again, I'm no super scout and as you say, the draft can throw you a curve ball. The only position on the entire roster that I don't feel like we could upgrade is QB. I'm probably happier at OL than most posters here, but would I sneeze at a pro bowl guard or tackle in round 1...hell no. WR? Of course we could use a stud. I would never take a RB in the first unless its a generational talent available at 5-10 so that won't happen. Again, tell me where a pro bowl level player is not needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    My list for 14
    1. Derwin James SS: Probably not going to be there but you never know the way the draft falls
    2. Minkah Fitzpatrick DB: He can play any where in the secondary, if he drops to 14 the Packers should scoop him up
    3. Denzel Ward CB: Great feet and vision. I don't like his frame all that much, I like CB that can tackle but the Packers need a shut down type corner in the passing game
    4. Roquan Smith LB: On paper and on film he is the only true linebacker I would consider with the 14th pick. Packers lack speed at the position and he brings the athleticism and speed
    5. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Edge: 3:4 pass rusher. He uses his hands well, wears down against big athletic tackles. needs to keep his feet.
    6. Quenton Nelson G: No one would be happy with this pick, but the Packers have a holes on their offensive line and he is the best in the draft. He would be an immediate starter at right guard.
    7.Tremaine Edmunds LB: I don't know why he is so highly rated, I guess if he is ranked in the top 5 I will "Trust" the experts.

    Other guys
    Joshua Jackson CB
    Jaire Alexander CB
    Mike Hughes CB
    Marcus Davenport Edge,
    Rashaan Evans LB
    Taven Bryan DL
    Leighton Vander Esch LB
    Harold Landry Edge
    Courtland Sutton WR
    This says it will be:

    CB Joshua 'Josh' Jackson and 'Good Size' @ 6 ' - 0 3/8 " and 196 lbs ... from Iowa Hawkeyes.

    https://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...7/josh-jackson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    My list for 14
    1. Derwin James SS: Probably not going to be there but you never know the way the draft falls
    2. Minkah Fitzpatrick DB: He can play any where in the secondary, if he drops to 14 the Packers should scoop him up
    3. Denzel Ward CB: Great feet and vision. I don't like his frame all that much, I like CB that can tackle but the Packers need a shut down type corner in the passing game
    4. Roquan Smith LB: On paper and on film he is the only true linebacker I would consider with the 14th pick. Packers lack speed at the position and he brings the athleticism and speed
    5. Ogbonnia Okoronkwo Edge: 3:4 pass rusher. He uses his hands well, wears down against big athletic tackles. needs to keep his feet.
    6. Quenton Nelson G: No one would be happy with this pick, but the Packers have a holes on their offensive line and he is the best in the draft. He would be an immediate starter at right guard.
    7.Tremaine Edmunds LB: I don't know why he is so highly rated, I guess if he is ranked in the top 5 I will "Trust" the experts.

    Other guys
    Joshua Jackson CB
    Jaire Alexander CB
    Mike Hughes CB
    Marcus Davenport Edge,
    Rashaan Evans LB
    Taven Bryan DL
    Leighton Vander Esch LB
    Harold Landry Edge
    Courtland Sutton WR
    I like Okoronkwo on film and at the Senior Bowl, but then he disappointed at the combine. It's going to be hard for Green Bay to take him at 6'1 1/2" and 4.77 40. I do think he's a bit underrated. He's like a shorter KGB. Not that high on Alexander. Hughes disappointed at the combine--along with Josh Jackson. Jackson looked stiff in drills and ran slow. I think he's a zone CB. Hughes is 5'10" and ran a pretty slow 40 for his size. I'm not that high on Sutton.

    Right now, I'd say my wish list is:

    1) Denzel Ward
    2) Quenton Nelson
    3) Tremaine Edmunds
    4) Derwin James
    5) Minkah Fitzpatrick (I see him as a S; he's not Jalen Ramsey)

    Unfortunately, I don't see any way the top 5 will be available.

    6) Roquan Smith
    7) Harold Landry
    8) Leighton Vander Esch (he could play inside or possibly outside in a 3-4)
    9) Rashaan Evans
    10) Vita Vea
    11) Calvin Ridley

    I think three QBs are guaranteed to go top 14 (Allen, Rosen, Darnold). That would be my top 11 right now (outside of QBs). Payne, Davenport, and Bryan would be next in line.

    What's interesting is that Davenport is considered a physical freak, but than Vander Esch did this:

    Marcus Davenport = 6'5 1/2" 264, 33 5/8" arms, 9 1/8" hands, 4.58 40, 22 bench reps, 33.5" vertical, 124" broad jump, 7.20 3 cone, 4.41 short shuttle
    Leighton Vander Esch= 6'4 1/4" 256, 33 7/8" arms, 9 3/4" hands, 4.65 40, 20 bench reps, 39.5" vertical, 124" broad jump, 6.88 3 cone, 4.15 short shuttle

    I also see Davenport as a better prospect as a 4-3 DE than 3-4 OLB--although his athleticism keeps him in the conversation for our draft pick.
    Last edited by HarveyWallbangers; 03-07-2018 at 12:32 PM.
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    Jackson's 4.56 forty? probably not with the 14th pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
    Jackson's 4.56 forty? probably not with the 14th pick
    It seems that's 'the talk' and ranking Prospects at CB.

    CB Prospects such as Isaiah Oliver (same size as Josh Jackson) or a much more ** speedy Jaire Alexander ** of Louisville might move ahead of CB Josh Jackson.

    ** Jaire Alexander, at 5-foot-11 and 192 pounds, ran a 4.38 40 at the Combine.

    Here's a story on CB Prospect Isaiah Oliver and his Combine.

    https://www.ralphiereport.com/2018/3...es-nfl-combine
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    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/st...ect/395863002/

    Josh Jackson's 'official' 40 time is costly for first-round NFL Draft prospect

    Mark Emmert, memmert@gannett.com Published 2:48 p.m. CT March 5, 2018 | Updated 3:13 p.m. CT March 5, 2018
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    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/

    Lber Roquan Smith is something else. Could the Packers really manage to land this Guy !? He has terrific focus, speed and strength and ability to be a game changer.

    Here They have the Packers drafting OLB/ILB Roquan Smith UGA; 6'-1" and 225 lbs at NO.14.

    Note: This Mock Draft Expert had 4 QB's drafted in the Top Ten Picks.



    NOTE:
    Here he goes to The Raiders @ NO. 10:

    http://walterfootball.com/mocks/Consensus/nfl/2018
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    Pettine could get pretty creative having Matthews (as an outside rusher with experience inside), Vander Esch (as an inside player with potential on the outside), and Perry (as an outside with experience and toughness against the run to play on the line). I'd still like to see another outside guy (like Josh Sweat) drafted relatively high.

    Wilkerson, Clark, Daniels with Lowry and Adams backing up on the DL + Matthews, Perry, Vander Esch, and Martinez with Sweat and Ryan (as a run down defender) backing up at LB would make the front 7 look a lot better.
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