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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    I think our greatest need, outside of a new defensive coaching staff, is still inside linebacker.

    Maybe Ryan and Martinez can improve with better coaching, but both of them were so God-awful terrible that I'm not sure either can play at the NFL level at all. Especially Ryan... wow, was he terrible this year.
    http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/1...018-nfl-draft/

    Here`s the Mix of greatest need.

    CB; TE; OLB; WR and ILB
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    Quote Originally Posted by wist43 View Post
    I think our greatest need, outside of a new defensive coaching staff, is still inside linebacker.

    Maybe Ryan and Martinez can improve with better coaching, but both of them were so God-awful terrible that I'm not sure either can play at the NFL level at all. Especially Ryan... wow, was he terrible this year.

    I think Martinez are fine if he's the 2nd best one but we need some mean and nasty in the other guy. Ryan is a JAG
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I think Martinez are fine if he's the 2nd best one but we need some mean and nasty in the other guy. Ryan is a JAG
    That`s right he`s from Michigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    That`s right he`s from Michigan.
    Wait, what? Michigan is the litmus test?

    Yo,Ed, it’s below zero up your way, but what’s left of your cranium can’t be frozen thru. Or is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBME View Post
    Wait, what? Michigan is the litmus test?

    Yo,Ed, it’s below zero up your way, but what’s left of your cranium can’t be frozen thru. Or is it?
    That's a long time inside Joke and Bretsky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I think Martinez are fine if he's the 2nd best one but we need some mean and nasty in the other guy. Ryan is a JAG
    Every time I dedicated some time to watching Martinez, and only Martinez, he was awful.

    Either he has exactly zero instincts for the game, or he only looked completely lost b/c his head was so full of spinning shit from the terrible coaching.

    I value the ILB much more highly than the packers as an organization do though, so I fear we're stuck with both those guys for years to come.
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    Draftwire's 4 round mock draft Packer picks.

    Harold Landry | EDGE | Boston College

    Deon Cain | WR | Clemson

    Mike Gesicki | TE | Penn State

    Micah Kiser | LB | Virginia

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    Yes we certainly have huge need at CB;

    In the last game At Detroit we saw this Guy on the sidelines without a Helmet on.

    http://www.packers.com/team/roster/D...2-df543ef2933f



    After seeing him and wearing NO. 44 my next thought wasn`t Henry Aaron but this:

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    I don’t ever want to hear anyone ever again blame a missed tackle on a guy wearing a club

    UCF just beat Auburn, their best defender only had one fucking hand, and he was awesome

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    I want SPEED at ILB ....aka....Atlanta does great with getting speed there and it shows. Shazier and Mosley would have looked nice on this team but TT hardly ever trades up and those guys are gone by late round two. Hopefull one falls to us this year.

    We need to utilize free agency.

    I think this year showed us we have a bunch of holes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I want SPEED at ILB ....aka....Atlanta does great with getting speed there and it shows. Shazier and Mosley would have looked nice on this team but TT hardly ever trades up and those guys are gone by late round two. Hopefull one falls to us this year.

    We need to utilize free agency.

    I think this year showed us we have a bunch of holes
    Yes and use the CAP don't PINCH with it as TT did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I want SPEED at ILB ....aka....Atlanta does great with getting speed there and it shows. Shazier and Mosley would have looked nice on this team but TT hardly ever trades up and those guys are gone by late round two. Hopefull one falls to us this year.

    We need to utilize free agency.

    I think this year showed us we have a bunch of holes
    Packers team defense= 20th

    Atlanta team defense= 22nd

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Packers team defense= 20th

    Atlanta team defense= 22nd

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef


    We're talking linebackers. Are you tryin to say those Atlanta LB'ers would not help us ? where the defenses ended up rating is silly to note. Of course you should not be held responsible to remember how badly Wist and I wanted the Falcons speedy LB in round two and that was the source of my chatter, even though I didn't explain it well enough. . He excels now; we have Jake Ryan
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    We're talking linebackers. Are you tryin to say those Atlanta LB'ers would not help us ? where the defenses ended up rating is silly to note. Of course you should not be held responsible to remember how badly Wist and I wanted the Falcons speedy LB in round two and that was the source of my chatter, even though I didn't explain it well enough. . He excels now; we have Jake Ryan
    Who do you not have then? And could that speed work in the former defense?

    Wist overplays this, but you have to have some size to play ILB for Dom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Who do you not have then? And could that speed work in the former defense?

    Wist overplays this, but you have to have some size to play ILB for Dom.


    On "this one" Wisty was spot on


    We'd have Deion Jones

    we would not have Jason Spriggs


    I guess you an just pick one of he ILB Jags to cut.
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Anyone else watching Georgia and Roguan smith right now?

    That guys pretty impressive

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    Roquan Smith is a grown ass man. Whoo boy he would look good in G&G. Came up huge in OT. So fast for an ILB.

    Lots of first few round draft picks playing in the playoff games. Worth watching for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Roquan Smith is a grown ass man. Whoo boy he would look good in G&G. Came up huge in OT. So fast for an ILB.

    Lots of first few round draft picks playing in the playoff games. Worth watching for sure.
    Smith will be an interesting situation. I've seen him rated in the top 10 overall, but teams these days seldom draft an ILB that early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Smith will be an interesting situation. I've seen him rated in the top 10 overall, but teams these days seldom draft an ILB that early.

    I've been reading and watching film on the Draft tonight because I'm bored debating on why some salary cap jag should never be our GM

    I"ve come across the two or three guys I'm going to endorse...aka....OdellThurman....as our picks in round one.

    Roquan Smith is the first guy I'd want. Even Wist might drop his jaw over this guy...lol..... But I think he goes around the 10 range....

    Bradley Chubb (DE from NC) is the other; I think he goes before Smith.

    I think we'd need to trade up to get either though. But I'd do it.

    Also Clelen Ferrell, DE from Clemson, right now looks like a good fit and somebody who will probably be there at 15. He's our pick IMO if we don't trade up.

    Of course, seeing it's only Jan 1st I'm probably completely full of shit ..lol
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    I've been reading and watching film on the Draft tonight because I'm bored debating on why some salary cap jag should never be our GM

    I"ve come across the two or three guys I'm going to endorse...aka....OdellThurman....as our picks in round one.

    Roquan Smith is the first guy I'd want. Even Wist might drop his jaw over this guy...lol..... But I think he goes around the 10 range....

    Bradley Chubb (DE from NC) is the other; I think he goes before Smith.

    I think we'd need to trade up to get either though. But I'd do it.

    Also Clelen Ferrell, DE from Clemson, right now looks like a good fit and somebody who will probably be there at 15. He's our pick IMO if we don't trade up.

    Of course, seeing it's only Jan 1st I'm probably completely full of shit ..lol
    Based on what I've read, no way Chubb would be available. Ferrell could be in play. Actually, underclassmen have until Jan' 15 to declare for the draft, so any lists are really premature.

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