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    what is under the new shitty fake turf? is it the same as the old shitty fake turf? concrete?

    or is it a softer base like dirt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    what is under the new shitty fake turf? is it the same as the old shitty fake turf? concrete?

    or is it a softer base like dirt?
    Recycled shoe rubber. That is the pellets that shoot up like dust when they drag their feet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Recycled shoe rubber. That is the pellets that shoot up like dust when they drag their feet.
    right i know that, whats under that?

    or is it just like a foot of that shit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    right i know that, whats under that?

    or is it just like a foot of that shit?
    No idea. But here is the incidence of certain injuries by turf surface.

    http://www.footballoutsiders.com/sta...njuries-part-i
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    what is under the new shitty fake turf? is it the same as the old shitty fake turf? concrete?

    or is it a softer base like dirt?
    I’ve been on the field. It’s actualy pretty soft. I wasn’t being tackled by a 300 pound DL or trying to run and make cuts though.
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    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    Here is the thing. Hundley isn't Rodgers, but he and McCarthy will create a facsimile of a decent offense.

    The bigger problems are still on the O line and DB (injuries). And pass rush (inconsistent and reliant on extra man).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Here is the thing. Hundley isn't Rodgers, but he and McCarthy will create a facsimile of a decent offense.

    The bigger problems are still on the O line and DB (injuries). And pass rush (inconsistent and reliant on extra man).
    Okay, so we've seen quarterbacks go down against the Packers, and we've seen their backups almost pull off an upset (considering it was the backup). Why couldn't the Packers' backup do the same thing?

    And Damn! Did the Packers even have any substitutes still on the bench? It seemed half the team was out due to injury by the end of the game (and yes, that probably answers the first question--two backup guards playing both tackle positions against the speedy rushers of the Vikings).

    It'd be easy to rag on Capers for the defense, but if one more DB went down, Janis would have been back playing safety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
    --two backup guards playing both tackle positions against the speedy rushers of the Vikings).
    Yet, when Stubby did call a pass play, usually on 3rd down, he had Hundley dropping back four or five steps before getting rid of the ball. Plus, Hundley had opportunities to run and didn't, which leads me to believe he was told not to. I understand protecting your last QB but c'mon, let him play. That kind of stuff has to change next week or it's going to be a long season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Yet, when Stubby did call a pass play, usually on 3rd down, he had Hundley dropping back four or five steps before getting rid of the ball. Plus, Hundley had opportunities to run and didn't, which leads me to believe he was told not to. I understand protecting your last QB but c'mon, let him play. That kind of stuff has to change next week or it's going to be a long season.
    I thought the 5 step drops were because they were third and long and needed mid length routes to develop.

    We'll see next week what Hundley can do.
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    Can we say that they missed Brooks today? He's just a role player, but he adds some productivity to defense in both pass and run defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    Can we say that they missed Brooks today? He's just a role player, but he adds some productivity to defense in both pass and run defense.
    They just really missed today.

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    There seems to be a consensus in here that the season is down the drain. Am I the only one in here that doesn't buy that? We damn near came back and beat a fairly decent team at their place without Rodgers and with a ton of other injuries. If damn McCarthy had gone for it on 4th and 1 (or not just run it into the line on 2nd and 3rd and 1), and if Montgomery had remembered he wasn't still in college and secured the ball and crawled in instead of stretching and losing control - either of those things or both, we might even have won that game.

    Hundley may not be Rodgers, but he was decent today, and he's only gonna get better. And our schedule was front loaded - if it hadn't been for the injury, the Packers would have literally been favored to run the table. They still should beat most of the teams the rest of the way ....... and on top of all that, there is some chance - 50/50? more? less? that Aaron Rodgers comes back in 6 or 7 or 8 weeks. or whenever.

    I'm still betting we make the playoffs, and if we do that with Rodgers back healthy, the sky is still the limit. Somebody ought to start a poll - who's a believer and who isn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    There seems to be a consensus in here that the season is down the drain. Am I the only one in here that doesn't buy that? We damn near came back and beat a fairly decent team at their place without Rodgers and with a ton of other injuries. If damn McCarthy had gone for it on 4th and 1 (or not just run it into the line on 2nd and 3rd and 1), and if Montgomery had remembered he wasn't still in college and secured the ball and crawled in instead of stretching and losing control - either of those things or both, we might even have won that game.

    Hundley may not be Rodgers, but he was decent today, and he's only gonna get better. And our schedule was front loaded - if it hadn't been for the injury, the Packers would have literally been favored to run the table. They still should beat most of the teams the rest of the way ....... and on top of all that, there is some chance - 50/50? more? less? that Aaron Rodgers comes back in 6 or 7 or 8 weeks. or whenever.

    I'm still betting we make the playoffs, and if we do that with Rodgers back healthy, the sky is still the limit. Somebody ought to start a poll - who's a believer and who isn't.

    I need some more information on if Rodgers is coming back or not. All I heard yesterday was that Rodgers will miss the remainder of the season (or was he "likely" to miss the rest of the season). If Rodgers is done, the season is over. If he can come back in 8 weeks, I'm on board. Perhaps we can go 3-4 in his absence and be 7-6 needing to win out with Rodgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by channtheman View Post
    I need some more information on if Rodgers is coming back or not. All I heard yesterday was that Rodgers will miss the remainder of the season (or was he "likely" to miss the rest of the season). If Rodgers is done, the season is over. If he can come back in 8 weeks, I'm on board. Perhaps we can go 3-4 in his absence and be 7-6 needing to win out with Rodgers.


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    10/22 New Orleans (3-2)
    10/29 BYE WEEK
    11/6 Detroit (3-3)
    11/12 @Chicago (2-4)
    11/19 Baltimore (3-3)
    11/26 @Pittsburgh (4-2)
    12/3 Tampa Bay (2-3)
    12/10 @Cleveland (0-6)
    12/17 @Carolina (4-2)
    12/23 Minnesota (4-2)
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    Packers remaining schedule.

    I'm assuming Rodgers will be back best case for the week after Cleveland. I see Chicago, Baltimore, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland as potential wins. New Orleans, Detroit, and Pittsburgh probably put up too many points against our defense for the stunted offense to have a chance to keep up. We probably win 2 of the potential wins, but since we're living in dreamland best case scenario, lets say we win 3.

    That leaves us at 7-6 with Rodgers returning. Then we have to win @Carolina, Minnesota, and @Detroit. I don't think I'd pick us to win all 3 of those games with Rodgers in the lineup. We might finish 9-7 in a best case scenario. Will that be enough for the playoffs? I guess we'll find out as the season unfolds.

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    If Bulaga and Bahk can be back next week and Hundley getting all the reps we will be able to tell if Brett can keep us afloat until Rodgers returns. It will help to get Brooks, Burnett and King back too.

    Is there a chance Rodgers has surgery on that collarbone?

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    I believe Barr saw an opportunity to get a big hit on a QB and took it. Rodgers was out of the pocket so he was fair game. I don't know if Barr was trying to injure Rodgers but every defender on every team will take a legal shot on a QB, especially one as good as Rodgers is. If he can take the QB either out or off his game the chances of his team winning go up substantially. Don't be surprised if this kind of hit is addressed this offseason. The league doesn't like to see their marquis QBs out. Who - other than Packers and Lions fans - is gonna be eager to tune in to see a Hundley led Packers squad square off against Detroit on Monday night in a couple of weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    I believe Barr saw an opportunity to get a big hit on a QB and took it. Rodgers was out of the pocket so he was fair game. I don't know if Barr was trying to injure Rodgers but every defender on every team will take a legal shot on a QB, especially one as good as Rodgers is. If he can take the QB either out or off his game the chances of his team winning go up substantially. Don't be surprised if this kind of hit is addressed this offseason.
    What is this kind of hit? Are we going to make tackling the QB illegal? Maybe I saw it differently than others, but there was nothing particularly violent about the tackle, wide receivers are brought down like that every play. I think Rodgers was mad that it was a late hit, but looking at replay, it wasn't late. Close - if the guy had another half second and extra step it woulda been a flag.

    There is no rule change that can fix this other than eliminating tackling the QB. Maybe that will happen - seriously. It could be two-hand-touch for the passer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    What is this kind of hit? Are we going to make tackling the QB illegal? Maybe I saw it differently than others, but there was nothing particularly violent about the tackle, wide receivers are brought down like that every play. I think Rodgers was mad that it was a late hit, but looking at replay, it wasn't late. Close - if the guy had another half second and extra step it woulda been a flag.

    There is no rule change that can fix this other than eliminating tackling the QB. Maybe that will happen - seriously. It could be two-hand-touch for the passer.
    I wanted it to be a penalty, but I couldn't even justify one in my fandom on replay. It just sucks.
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