More Banjo: Week 6 @ Minnesota

[texaspackerbacker]

When Rodgers got hurt, we had the top five interior O Linemen in the game, right? And predictably, they played like crap, same as the replacements in previous weeks, same as who we had out there the rest of the game. As great as Aaron Rodgers has been mobility-wise - performing so great even when rushed on virtually every pass play, you could say an injury like this was inevitable because of our horribly poor O Line - thank you Ted Thompson for that.

Regarding the hit, it was dirty but probably not illegal (the only way is if it was considered late, and hits that late happen all the time). My first reaction was kill the bastard who did it, but undoubtedly every team we play salivates for a chance to take out what basically is the only reason the Packers are on top - thanks to the mediocre supporting cast Ted Thompson gave the team. If the shoe was on the other foot - our D player similarly taking out the other team's QB, I'd be cheering, as would all but a few bleeding hearts in here.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Regarding the hit, it was dirty but probably not illegal

What was dirty? Did he punch Arod in the nuts? A hard hit is not dirty. This was not even a dramatic hit. The only "dirty" thing is you are mad that the Packer QB got hurt.

If Arod hadn't been injured, nobody would even have noticed this tackle.

Arod is not a big, rugged guy. Not sure that matters. But I was shocked that he broke a bone from that contact with ground. Probably regular-sized shoulder pads would have saved him. QBs have little protection there.

[pbmax]

What was dirty? Did he punch Arod in the nuts? A hard hit is not dirty. This was not even a dramatic hit. The only "dirty" thing is you are mad that the Packer QB got hurt.

If Arod hadn't been injured, nobody would even have noticed this tackle.

Arod is not a big, rugged guy. Not sure that matters. But I was shocked that he broke a bone from that contact with ground. Probably regular-sized shoulder pads would have saved him. QBs have little protection there.

It was the extended arm that got him. It gave leverage to hit that pressured his collarbone (Patler mentioned this elsewhere). This was a hit he should have taken in a tuck and roll position. All hindsight though.

Frankly, the kid is a genius for being this healthy this far along in his career given how much time he spends out of the pocket and waiting to throw.

[woodbuck27]

It was the extended arm that got him. It gave leverage to hit that pressured his collarbone (Patler mentioned this elsewhere). This was a hit he should have taken in a tuck and roll position. All hindsight though.

Frankly, the kid is a genius for being this healthy this far along in his career given how much time he spends out of the pocket and waiting to throw.

Yes..the hit was simply normal.Your correct without the injury there would be little made of Minnesota Vikings linebacker Anthony Barr's contact with ARod.

It's almost shocking the damage that was caused by his fall, but the forces from the right hand's contact with the field surface and on and up the right arm caused the collarbone to snap. With no hand down ARod more than likely would have bounced up and merely shrugged those shoulders as we've seen him do so often.

It's just one of those freaky things and ARod. He's one heck of a fine athlete and as his body is constructed an exceptional QB with outstanding arm strength to make the long throw; the legs and speed to run very well.

Is he a rugged guy? It hasn't seemed so to me that he is 'rugged', watching him since he was drafted. Doesn't anyone remember him getting injured falling off the end of a players bench?

Yes ARod has to run out of the QB Pocket often and maybe way to much but that is his style of playing QB and extending the play.His outstanding athleticism works for him and that. He might be an athletic Genius but given his body and vulnerability to injury.

He has been very fortunate or lucky not to be more often injured. We'll see that disappear as his career extends. As Packer fans we know just how much and Packer success rides on Aaron Rodgers being active for games. For by far the most Top Level Teams in NFL History; it's the same and the starting QB position.

Yesterday LUCK disappeared for Aaron Rodgers, the Green Bay Packers and Packer Nation.We witnessed a tragedy as Packer fans. Aaron Rodgers suffered far far more.

The impact of this injury will in all reality be negatively HUGE. The negative impact extending beyond the 2017-18 Season and all Aaron Rodgers is. Nothing short of a NFL Rule change to: You cannot hit a QB will remove the impact of Bad Luck on Aaron Rodgers and thus Green Bay Packers good fortunes.

It still remains:

GO PACK GO !

[Rutnstrut]

It was the extended arm that got him. It gave leverage to hit that pressured his collarbone (Patler mentioned this elsewhere). This was a hit he should have taken in a tuck and roll position. All hindsight though.

Frankly, the kid is a genius for being this healthy this far along in his career given how much time he spends out of the pocket and waiting to throw.

He's no Favre as far as being able to take a shot and stay "healthy". But I bet he's far above the NFL average for QB's as far as playing vs hits he takes. That is if there is such a stat.

[pbmax]

He's no Favre as far as being able to take a shot and stay "healthy". But I bet he's far above the NFL average for QB's as far as playing vs hits he takes. That is if there is such a stat.

No one is Favre, as evidenced by the guy who was closest to his streak being a defensive end. Manning got close by almost never getting hit and going down early.

But Favre also took bad decision making and risk assumption to new levels in order to stay healthy (on the plus side, he also learned to throw the ball away). He was an entirely different player in the 2000s versus the kid who took kill shot after kill shot in the mid 1990s. No one has completed more passes after taking a concussion mid-play that Favre before year 2000.

[pbmax]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 41s41 seconds ago
The #Packers have just completed deal to sign practice squad QB Joe Callahan to the 53-man roster. He's Brett Hundley's backup for now.


YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HINT THAT OTHER THINGS ARE IN THE WORKS UNLESS YOU ALSO MAKE A PREDICTION. I THINK REPORTERS ARE DELUDING THEMSELVES HERE, BUT MAYBE THEY KNOW SOMETHING THAT HASN'T LEAKED YET.

[woodbuck27]

He's no Favre as far as being able to take a shot and stay "healthy". But I bet he's far above the NFL average for QB's as far as playing vs hits he takes. That is if there is such a stat.

Mae and I both agreed on this:

What happened to Aaron Rodgers was going to happen sooner or later this Season as he was again being punished too often. No NFL Team has suffered more QB SACKS this Season than The Green Bay Packers (tied with Detroit)

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...2&d-447263-n=1

[Smidgeon]

What was dirty? Did he punch Arod in the nuts? A hard hit is not dirty. This was not even a dramatic hit. The only "dirty" thing is you are mad that the Packer QB got hurt.

If Arod hadn't been injured, nobody would even have noticed this tackle.

Arod is not a big, rugged guy. Not sure that matters. But I was shocked that he broke a bone from that contact with ground. Probably regular-sized shoulder pads would have saved him. QBs have little protection there.

I had a similar take. I thought he rolled really well too. But injury hits sometimes. Too bad it wasn't someone else's star QB instead.

[red]

i would like to know just what in the hell the team saw on the x-rays to come out and say he could be done for the year.

collar bone should take 6-8 weeks to heal, including the bye week, we have 11 weeks left in the regular season

if brett #2 can manage 2 or 3 wins over the next 7 games, we should be in the playoff hunt when a-rod is healthy

so why come out and say he might be done for the year? is it the overly cautious staff being overly cautious. or is the injury worse then we think

[pbmax]

i would like to know just what in the hell the team saw on the x-rays to come out and say he could be done for the year.

collar bone should take 6-8 weeks to heal, including the bye week, we have 11 weeks left in the regular season

if brett #2 can manage 2 or 3 wins over the next 7 games, we should be in the playoff hunt when a-rod is healthy

so why come out and say he might be done for the year? is it the overly cautious staff being overly cautious. or is the injury worse then we think

Never underestimate the chances that stupidity explains most of the work in the world. That might be the most uncharitable reading of whatever prognosis they had yesterday.

Why they released any kind of timeline is a great question and probably gets someone a pay cut.

[pbmax]

Either that or the team Docs KNOW he is done with full collarbone break.

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 52m52 minutes ago
#Packers QB Aaron Rodgers (collarbone) will have tests to determine the next course of action. Chance he returns late, but just a chance.

[Harlan Huckleby]

"tuck and roll" is damn good advice for old people walking in icy conditions. It;s the panic, attempt to break your fall that gets you.

I've had falls and bicycle spills and always come out ok. Guess as former wrassler my body knows to not tense up, just roll with it. Sorta like the old joke:

[mraynrand]

What is this kind of hit? Are we going to make tackling the QB illegal? Maybe I saw it differently than others, but there was nothing particularly violent about the tackle, wide receivers are brought down like that every play. I think Rodgers was mad that it was a late hit, but looking at replay, it wasn't late. Close - if the guy had another half second and extra step it woulda been a flag.

There is no rule change that can fix this other than eliminating tackling the QB. Maybe that will happen - seriously. It could be two-hand-touch for the passer.

QBs are typically tackled by linemen and LBs. WRs are typically tackled by defensive backs. WR are typically moving faster and aren't usually landed on like QBs standing in the pocket or looking downfield. Even so you may have noticed Packer WR still get hurt with lighter hit than Rodgers took.

The tackle wasn't all the violent it was just a hard hit with a full body landing on Rodgers with extended arm.

Of course we wouldn't be making that big of deal if he hadn't got hurt. But every time a QB - or anyone else - takes a hit like that there's a chance for injury.

[Pugger]

QBs are typically tackled by linemen and LBs. WRs are typically tackled by defensive backs. WR are typically moving faster and aren't usually landed on like QBs standing in the pocket or looking downfield. Even so you may have noticed Packer WR still get hurt with lighter hit than Rodgers took.

The tackle wasn't all the violent it was just a hard hit with a full body landing on Rodgers with extended arm.

Of course we wouldn't be making that big of deal if he hadn't got hurt. But every time a QB - or anyone else - takes a hit like that there's a chance for injury.

I don't think it was an illegal hit but my beef is it was unnecessary. Barr didn't need to tackle him.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't think it was an illegal hit but my beef is it was unnecessary. Barr didn't need to tackle him.

His job is to tackle the QB - hard. He has to sense when it is too late, and he made the right choice.

Of course on every play when the ball is gone there is no "need" to tackle the QB. But a defender is not supposed to turn off/on instantly.

[Zool]

I don't think it was an illegal hit but my beef is it was unnecessary. Barr didn't need to tackle him.

Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.

[mraynrand]

Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.

It was a brilliant move. If you can KO arguably the best player in the league and not even get a penalty, you're money. Probably the best tackle Barr will ever make. Packer should train their defense off that video.

[Pugger]

Agreed. The only reason to hit a QB who has already thrown a ball is to hurt him. It's time for the Packers to start hitting people back like that. Old school baseball rules.

Yup, Barr was going for the kill shot. Taking out #12 now has improved their chances to win the division. Don't be surprised if our defenders get a little more aggressive the next time we play MN.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If anybody else is still confused, we can step outside and have a demonstration.