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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    The Vikings are trending upward.

    You need luck at QB. That's just like every Top Tier NFL Team.
    How so? Because they defeated a beat up team that lost their starting QB and leader? They do have a couple of easy games coming up but who among us thought KC would lose at home today or Atlanta would lose to Miami?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    How so? Because they defeated a beat up team that lost their starting QB and leader? They do have a couple of easy games coming up but who among us thought KC would lose at home today or Atlanta would lose to Miami?
    Yeah, no kidding. Football is so weird. Packers looked to have the whole thing coming back their way at the start of the game and then KABOOM it all gets blown to hell. Next thing you know, Hundley surprises everyone and turns into a season-long fuckdoggle extraordinaire and we're all like Hey, wha happened? ( I'm in the bargaining stage).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    How so? Because they defeated a beat up team that lost their starting QB and leader? They do have a couple of easy games coming up but who among us thought KC would lose at home today or Atlanta would lose to Miami?
    But they did it without their QB, RB1 or WR1
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    But they did it without their QB, RB1 or WR1
    They had 2 or 3 weeks to prep a game plan for the backup. I bet Keenum actually saw some practice snaps too.

    C'mon, give the offense a week to adjust.

    I don't know how to feel about the defense. Despite all the carnage, they kept it close and got the ball back. Hell, they manufactured the offenses second score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    But they did it without their QB, RB1 or WR1
    They did it because of their defense. If we had their defense the loss of #12 wouldn't be so devastating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    They did it because of their defense. If we had their defense the loss of #12 wouldn't be so devastating.
    Then you evidently agree with wist43.

    Until TT and the Defensive expertise on the Green Bay Packers Staff can draft on 'D' the Green Bay Packers and Super Bowl is in all probability a mere illusion. Great NFL Teams have great 'D's'.

    It's a hand and hand thing:

    A great QB and 'O' also needs 'at least a decent 'D'.

    The Packers do not have a decent 'D'. That is particularly the case and Pass Rush now and in the Packer Secondary.

    The Green Bay Packers need a whole different direction and Drafting for the next five Seasons. For the past five Seasons Ted Thompson and his Scouting Team and the DC etc. have blown it and getting the help that Aaron Rodgers and the Packer 'O' has needed on DEFENSE.

    What's the answer Pugger if it isn't a prayer that TT steps away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Then you evidently agree with wist43.

    Until TT and the Defensive expertise on the Green Bay Packers Staff can draft on 'D' the Green Bay Packers and Super Bowl is in all probability a mere illusion. Great NFL Teams have great 'D's'.

    It's a hand and hand thing:

    A great QB and 'O' also needs 'at least a decent 'D'.

    The Packers do not have a decent 'D'. That is particularly the case and Pass Rush now and in the Packer Secondary.

    The Green Bay Packers need a whole different direction and Drafting for the next five Seasons. For the past five Seasons Ted Thompson and his Scouting Team and the DC etc. have blown it and getting the help that Aaron Rodgers and the Packer 'O' has needed on DEFENSE.

    What's the answer Pugger if it isn't a prayer that TT steps away?
    It's not as easy as that Woodbuck. Having a great QB is a gift but there are negatives that go along with it. The QB pay scale has caught up recently where even average QB's are in Rodgers' vicinity but prior to that there was a significant difference between what the top QB's and average QB's were getting. In addition, the elite QB's keep you at a level where you never bottom out and draft near the top.
    Go PACK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    It's not as easy as that Woodbuck. Having a great QB is a gift but there are negatives that go along with it. The QB pay scale has caught up recently where even average QB's are in Rodgers' vicinity but prior to that there was a significant difference between what the top QB's and average QB's were getting. In addition, the elite QB's keep you at a level where you never bottom out and draft near the top.
    The DRAFT is Seven Rounds. You have a brand new Draft Class.

    You must draft talent sure but you also must draft potential NFL players with true heart and real determination the guts to play in the Packer System.That is where I believe the 'key' exists. Draft REAL NFL football players. You must have a Scout Team focused on that after your Elite QB. To truly add support to that Elite QB. There has been an obvious fail there.

    That fact must be clearly evident. I can attest to this as a TRUTH.We have some very bright football fans not simply Homer Packer fans here at Packerrats. I know that because I must be as a fan in touch with all that's going on in the NFL or I fail as an amatuer analyst. I fail as a Pro Pickem competitor with a solid record.

    I know the Elite Draft picks go in Round 1 and the Packers generally or over the past decade (and Aaron Rodgers) pick in the bottom third of that round; but good Scouting has to somehow compensate.

    After that it comes down to a solid Program and not having adversity kick your Rosters ass.

    I'm simply frustrated with 'excuses being the order for the end of every Season'. Is it anything really and bad luck or bad karma?

    Whatever...I vote for a real change. Will that be better?

    I don't know but PLEASE we need something before Aaron Rodgers cannot compete. That window and opportunity just closed some more last Sunday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Then you evidently agree with wist43.

    Until TT and the Defensive expertise on the Green Bay Packers Staff can draft on 'D' the Green Bay Packers and Super Bowl is in all probability a mere illusion. Great NFL Teams have great 'D's'.

    It's a hand and hand thing:

    A great QB and 'O' also needs 'at least a decent 'D'.

    The Packers do not have a decent 'D'. That is particularly the case and Pass Rush now and in the Packer Secondary.

    The Green Bay Packers need a whole different direction and Drafting for the next five Seasons. For the past five Seasons Ted Thompson and his Scouting Team and the DC etc. have blown it and getting the help that Aaron Rodgers and the Packer 'O' has needed on DEFENSE.

    What's the answer Pugger if it isn't a prayer that TT steps away?
    Are our defensive problems because of TT or Capers? Ted doesn't seem to have a problem drafting offensive players so he must have some skill when it comes to evaluating talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    How so? Because they defeated a beat up team that lost their starting QB and leader? They do have a couple of easy games coming up but who among us thought KC would lose at home today or Atlanta would lose to Miami?
    https://www.sbnation.com/2017/10/17/...curated-week-7

    FROM SBNATION: NFL POWER RANKINGS

    NFL power rankings 2017: Tracking where teams are entering Week 7

    The Chiefs are no longer undefeated, but they are still the top team.


    By Jon Benne@LordBenne Oct 17, 2017, 1:13pm EDT

    I'm feeling sorry but here's your Reality Check and where noted NFL Sites have the Green Bay Packers Ranked Vs our Rival Minnesota Vikings. The Vikings have moved past the Green Bay Packers too Week Seven of the NFL Schedule.

    It is what it really is ! I'm feeling sorry for you and your fan.....ness. That has to be tough !

    The Viking are 'in fact' ahead of the Packers and THE NFL POWER RANKING and that's the case across the entire board on NFL.Com and ESPN and CBS and Yahoo Internet Pro Sports Sites.


    GO PACK GO !
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