Put up or Shut up

[Rutnstrut]

Lol we're down the top 5 tackles and a starting guard.. and that'd without even addressing the defense. There's not a team in the league that could overcome all that.

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

[Bossman641]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

News flash... it hasn't been the starters. I think you can get by without a stud ol but you need repetition. We've had a different starting 5 every game and have had linemen go down during the games as well. Tough to get any kind of consistency with all that going on.

[Pugger]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

Bull. When healthy we have one of the top tackle tandems in the league. Last year our line was ranked in the top 10. Lane Taylor is a find guard and surprised me at tackle when Bahk went down (he ain't Lang but he ain't terrible either). Evans isn't what he once was but is is serviceable. I don't have a problem with the offense. The defense is another issue entirely...

[Rutnstrut]

Bull. When healthy we have one of the top tackle tandems in the league. Last year our line was ranked in the top 10. Lane Taylor is a find guard and surprised me at tackle when Bahk went down (he ain't Lang but he ain't terrible either). Evans isn't what he once was but is is serviceable. I don't have a problem with the offense. The defense is another issue entirely...

I don't think they were top 10 last year in actual football production. Rodgers was hit and sacked more than a lot of other QB's and that was with Sitton yet. TT has screwed with the continuity of the line every few years and it shows. But yeah he's great.

[mraynrand]

I don't think they were top 10 last year in actual football production. Rodgers was hit and sacked more than a lot of other QB's and that was with Sitton yet. TT has screwed with the continuity of the line every few years and it shows. But yeah he's great.

I think last year they were tops. The year before they were just OK. Sitton was beat up.

Look around the league. It's not that common for a line to stay the same year over year. Even Dallas' vaunted line had I think two positions change from last year to this year.

[Bossman641]

I don't think they were top 10 last year in actual football production. Rodgers was hit and sacked more than a lot of other QB's and that was with Sitton yet. TT has screwed with the continuity of the line every few years and it shows. But yeah he's great.

Sitton wasn't around last year. He was cut at the last minute and taylor replaced him.

[Rutnstrut]

Sitton wasn't around last year. He was cut at the last minute and taylor replaced him.

Yup, I meant Lang. My point and I've made it before. When you have the crown jewels (Rodgers) you use the best damn safe money can buy to protect them. Plus you make sure there is a decent back up plan should that safe fail. Now granted no one could see the injuries coming. But putting faith in Bulaga and letting Lang walk were mistakes. IMO letting Tretter go was also a mistake. They want to let underperforming overpaid players go, they should have let Clay go.

[mraynrand]

Yup, I meant Lang. My point and I've made it before. When you have the crown jewels (Rodgers) you use the best damn safe money can buy to protect them. Plus you make sure there is a decent back up plan should that safe fail. Now granted no one could see the injuries coming. But putting faith in Bulaga and letting Lang walk were mistakes. IMO letting Tretter go was also a mistake. They want to let underperforming overpaid players go, they should have let Clay go.

Well, they didn't really put faith in Bulaga, they drafted Spriggs and Murphy. You can hold them accountable for that not working out, but not for the injuries.

I would say that Taylor was a fine replacement for Sitton - until the injury - not only was he playing well at guard, but he did a nice job out at tackle when they were down there.

Tretter is up and down for the Browns. They are not all that happy with his strength, even at center.

Lang got tackle money. I just don't think you spend money there with his injury history, but hell, what can I say when everyone is injured? The only guy who isn't is Lang's replacement!

[woodbuck27]

Yup, I meant Lang. My point and I've made it before. When you have the crown jewels (Rodgers) you use the best damn safe money can buy to protect them. Plus you make sure there is a decent back up plan should that safe fail. Now granted no one could see the injuries coming. But putting faith in Bulaga and letting Lang walk were mistakes. IMO letting Tretter go was also a mistake. They want to let underperforming overpaid players go, they should have let Clay go.

T.J. Lang was blocking well yet getting penalized (arguably too much) and not particularly pleased with his start with the Lions and then.... this:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf..._back_inj.html

[Pugger]

T.J. Lang was blocking well yet getting penalized (arguably too much) and not particularly pleased with his start with the Lions and then.... this:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf..._back_inj.html

Did this back issue start while he was playing for us? If so I can see why Ted and company declined to match the offer Lang received from Detroit.

[bobblehead]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

Your problem is that ridiculous statements like this make you unbelievable on the rare occasion you make a good point. Really...starting your 7th best OL at LT and your 8th at LG doesn't matter?

Last year behind the healthy OL they were 20th in the league in rushing yards, but 8th in Y/A. When you have Rodgers at QB that is very acceptable. When your RB is a converted WR due to injuries its laudable.

Ur that guy that compares the packers to the team in the league that is #1 at each different thing and bitches that they aren't as good as that team. It reflects poorly.

[smuggler]

It wouldn't matter. The line is terrible even when it's the starters. But keep making excuses for TT and stubby.

Put up good posts or shut up, please!

[bobblehead]

Put up good posts or shut up, please!

repped...just for bagging on rut in a creative way using the threads theme.