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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    really?

    rodgers was being debated as the #1 pick just a few days before the draft, but somehow slipped all the way to us

    if you're being discussed as the top overall pick in the draft, you are an elite prospect
    Why is anyone talking anything and Aaron Rodgers (compared to) Brett Hundley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Why is anyone talking anything and Aaron Rodgers (compared to) Brett Hundley?

    It's like comparing diamonds to coal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    really?

    rodgers was being debated as the #1 pick just a few days before the draft, but somehow slipped all the way to us

    if you're being discussed as the top overall pick in the draft, you are an elite prospect
    So you don't remember the Favre controversy? Or the fact that Rodgers first season preseason games were pretty bad? And that he only had one preseason where he looked even as good as Hasselback did?

    I don't remember anyone hanging their hat on the #1 draft pick consideration in 2008.
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    Original Tweet was McCarthy saying "Put it on the coach"

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    He knows he got out coached and lost and very winnable game bc of it.

    Aaron Nagler‏ @AaronNagler 52m52 minutes ago
    Agree with this assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Well M3 and T2 were right about Rodgers when no one in their right mind thought they would be. In fact, most didn't even consider Rodgers early career on par with Hasselback.

    So I am willing to give them time on this one. But this season doesn't allow for a lot of time for development.
    Why not? Let Hundley play the rest of the season and get some experience under his belt. If he shows he can play in this league we might be able to get something for him this offseason. He's not gonna want to hand around GB being Rodgers' understudy the rest of his career if he can start somewhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Why not? Let Hundley play the rest of the season and get some experience under his belt. If he shows he can play in this league we might be able to get something for him this offseason. He's not gonna want to hand around GB being Rodgers' understudy the rest of his career if he can start somewhere else.
    It seems a waste of a 4-2 start, that's why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    It seems a waste of a 4-2 start, that's why.
    The 4-1 start ended when Rodgers was injured. We're a completely different team without the all-world QB. We've got an average defense (at best) and an average offense (at best) when Hundley gets some seasoning.

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    This is an 8-8 team at the end of the season (at best) if Hundley progresses. Before that, the offense is below average so your looking at 4-12 to 6-10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beveaux1 View Post
    This is an 8-8 team at the end of the season (at best) if Hundley progresses. Before that, the offense is below average so your looking at 4-12 to 6-10.
    Do we really want to end up 8-8? If we aren't gonna go deep into the playoffs what good is 8-8? I'm not saying let's tank but it wouldn't be the worst thing to have highish draft pick for a change to inject more talent in this team for when Rodgers returns in 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beveaux1 View Post
    This is an 8-8 team at the end of the season (at best) if Hundley progresses. Before that, the offense is below average so your looking at 4-12 to 6-10.
    That would be solid for a first year starter. ARod was 6-10 his first year starting off of a 13-3 season. I hope he progresses and we finish 4-4 with him as starter. That would be a win and a feather in MMs cap in my book.
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    That last statement means they could win 25% to 38% of their remaining games if Hundley doesn't progress.

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    My problem is with M3 and the Defense. I can live with the drop off on offense but the d has been a festering sore for years. I'm not even going to go into detail as every aspect of the is a problem from the play calling to the players to the philosophy.

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    Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 37m37 minutes ago
    McCarthy also said “It’s a crime to say we didn’t show up for 4 quarters.” And took blame for Hundley not being comfortable in the pocket.

    Michael Cohen‏ @Michael_Cohen13 25s26 seconds ago
    Davon House said the hit from Brice knocked the wind out of him. He felt fine afterward. However, he said his quad was less than 90 percent.

    SO HOUSE - LUNG OR DIAPHRAGM, NOT HOUSE - CONCUSSION

    Michael Cohen‏ @Michael_Cohen13 43m43 minutes ago
    #Packers said Ha Ha Clinton-Dix is not injured. He hasn’t been receiving treatment for anything. The mystery of his poor play continues.
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    My guess is that McCarthy brought the wrong game plan to the game and the Saints knew it soon after the start.

    He felt boxed in by new starter and banged up O line and the Saints were ready for the scaled down version.

    Anyone else see a lot of 11 personnel with man coverage who were open? They did some bunches but only after Hundley moved them and then twice those bunches produced two receivers running the same route.
    Last edited by pbmax; 10-22-2017 at 04:33 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    My guess is that McCarthy brought the wrong game plan to the game and the Saints knew it soon after the start.

    He felt boxed in by new starter and banged up O line and the Saints were ready for the scaled down version.

    Anyone else see a lot of 11 personnel with man coverage who were open? They did some bunches but only after Hundley moved them and then twice those bunches produced two receivers running the same route.
    You might be right - he probably didn't trust Hundley with the entire playbook and held him back and the team suffered because of it. Perhaps Stubby had visions of what happened in2013?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    My guess is that McCarthy brought the wrong game plan to the game and the Saints knew it soon after the start.

    He felt boxed in by new starter and banged up O line and the Saints were ready for the scaled down version.

    Anyone else see a lot of 11 personnel with man coverage who were open? They did some bunches but only after Hundley moved them and then twice those bunches produced two receivers running the same route.
    why would the playbook have to be cut down at all?

    the guys been the top backup for 3 years, its not like he just got the playbook last week

    he has been, or should have been running all these plays for 3 years

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    Jason Wilde‏ @jasonjwilde 15m15 minutes ago
    Correcting earlier McCarthy quote: "We had our best week of preparation and it’s a crying shame it didn’t show up today for four quarters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Jason Wilde‏ @jasonjwilde 15m15 minutes ago
    Correcting earlier McCarthy quote: "We had our best week of preparation and it’s a crying shame it didn’t show up today for four quarters."
    that should sum up fat mikes career minus HOF qb's

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    Dome Patrol (!) last 4 weeks:
    3 TO, 13 points allowed vs. CAR
    Shutout vs. MIA
    3 net points allowed vs. DET
    79 passing yards allowed vs. GB

    The Packers threw for 79 yards, just the 5th time since 1992 that Green Bay has thrown for fewer than 80 yards in a game.

    The Packers offense gained 65 yards in the second half. That is pathetic.

    Brett Hundley has been in the Packers system for 3 years. This was an embarrassing performance. Threw for 3 first downs on 26 drop backs!!

    Drew Brees threw two picks, but otherwise had great stats. 41% first down rate. 8.3 Net Yards per Attempt. Saints punted just twice.
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