Backups don't practice during the season and they practice mainly with 2nd team. Gonna take some time and a modified offense.Originally Posted by red
That doesn't explain the defense outplaying the offense in 2 of the last five post seasons.
I am starting to agree with you. But even if Hundley proves unworthy they are going to get to 6-8 wins.
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He [Ha Ha Clinton Dix] looks hurt. Darren Perry basically admitted it and then backed off. Can't imagine he's regressed. But if you aren't on the INJ report ...
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
C-D turned down some hits. Had a chance to go up and compete and separate receiver from ball and turned it down. Something not right. I thought perhaps it was being worried about letting guys get behind him with replacements out there. Lingering injury would explain a lot.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Heh, didn’t Hodge from ESPN say on draft day 2008 that Brohm was the Packers QB of the future and Rodgers wouldn’t amount to anything?
Hundley might turn out to be good, he might not. But I guarantee some of the same people here talking shit were saying Rodgers was injury prone and couldn’t play. Telford QBs never amount to anything. He doesn’t have the arm. He dropped in the draft for a reason.
Blah blah blah. Same shit, different year.
Edited for horrible spelling.
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I'm still gonna defend Hundley. The O Line was as shitty as ever other than opening holes for a couple of running plays on the first series, and our receivers got exposed as being overrated because Rodgers is so good, that and the piss poor play calling of McCarthy.
In addition, New Orleans was a little better than I expected on defense. It must be nice to have a real O Line like they had (and like virtually every team in the league has better than the Packers' O Line).
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He had time. Tackles held up well. McCray had trouble a couple of times, usually with stunts, but was not a tire fire. There were opportunities to make throws.
The WRs weren't very open, but that is par for the course. I do think Cobb has gotten healthy enough to be a threat again. Every time they ran four verticals (twice by my count) he got open against safety/slot CB.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
^^^ I need to look at the actual numbers, but it didn't seem to me very few passes came off play-action. It's like the Packers forgot that exists. If you can run for close to 200 yards, there's no reason to put Hundley in shotgun or pistol for passes. Run more play-action until Hundley can dissect a defense like Rodgers. At least that might open the middle of the field a little more
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
In the first half, they ran a lot of option out of the gun. Not option as in Nebraska, but QB/RB option. Jones got some yards that way and it was affecting the ILBs.
I *think* his best completion to Bennett was off this, but might be misremembering.
So play action did work because of the dual threat, but they went away from it in second half.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I'll have to look again too. Seems like your mixing together two types of options. The QB/RB option actually worked a little - probably would work even better with Kaepernick in there at QB, but maybe Hundley is faster at this point.
What I was taking about is play action passing from under center. I know the Packers run play action off pistol as well, but they were running off single running back look and Hundley under center. Seems like play action would work there and open things up a bit, in the passing game, especially if they aren't going to be able to run the Rodgers offense - especially extended plays and looking for receivers to come open after running primary pattern.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
I get it. He wasn't under center much at all.
But I think had they stuck with that QB/RB mesh run option, they would have been better than dropping back out of the gun like they did in the second half. Even faking that mesh was sucking linebackers up. The problem was that New Orleans began to stuff that run. They faked the offense's left DE out of his shoes and Jones/Monty lost a yard because the dual double teams got buried on the right.
If you could block the optioned defender, I think passing out of it could have helped more.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Apropos of nothing, this story about Steve Spurrier at Duke explains a lot about his college and pro career.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Randall Cobb:
Mike McCarthy:“It’s going to be important for us to continue to build confidence in him to throw it to us in different situations. There were opportunities. Jordy and Davante got on top all day. There were a few inside as well with myself. We just have to continue to build that chemistry with Brett.”
So was this the case of Hundley not seeing guys downfield because he was worried about the pressure? Do the Packers need to go with more protection?“It was a challenge that I didn’t meet today,” McCarthy said. “He didn’t get comfortable in the pocket, and that’s my responsibility. So I did a poor job coaching.’
Someone wrote that Hundley is likely more familiar with Davis, Allison (not a coincidence he went in and got targeted twice quickly) and Janis.
Its going to take a little time to learn what is going to be open with each guy. But M3 can send one of Hundley's guys out there to help. Then call Adams/Jordy/Cobb's number.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
IIRC, Rodgers had chemistry with Jennings and James Jones from playing with them on the scout team when he stepped into that Cowboys game in 2007. I thought he mentioned at the time that he had spent a lot of time working with those guys and was comfortable throwing to them.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
Not Jennings. He was a starter from day one. Maybe Jones. I know Ruvell Martin was one of his favorites on the scout team.
My thoughts from being at Lambeau on Sunday:
- Crowd was real loud when Hundley was introduced before the game.
- Jones is fantastic. He really sees the field.
- On the Saints first TD run, the crowd knew that the Packers only had 10 players on the field.
- The Packers defense subbed players rather late and there seemed to be a lot of confusion rather often.
- Brees had all day to throw and the Packers played very soft off the LOS. They are just so afraid of being beat deep. The pass rush was brutal.
- Something is very wrong with Ha-Ha, there were several times he just held up from contact.
- Everybody loves Martinez
- On the play or two before the Pack settled for that awful 59 yd FG try, Cobb had his man beat by 3-4 yds on a post route for an easy TD, but the pressure didn't allow Hundley to see him.
- Quite often the WRs were blanketed. Nobody plays off of them at the LOS. Need to be a lot more picks and double moves.
- Hundley was late on a couple of throws where guys were open but he held the ball too long.
- Rain stopped mid way through the first quarter and there was some drizzle right before half.
- I'm now 0-3 at Lambeau. Someday I'll see that W.
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