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    sounds like sarcasm to me! Stubby gettin' testy. I'm betting that Golden Corral buffet didn't go down so well Sunday night...
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    I listened to the game on Sunday, just watched the end of it this morning. As inconsistent as Hundley and the offense were, they still lead 17-16 with 14:46 to go in the game. Following a kickoff, NO had the ball at their own 14. The game was there to be won.

    The defense did nothing to win the game.
    The offense did nothing to win the game.
    STs negated a decent kickoff return with a penalty to put the offense at their own 10 yard line, and had a penalty on a punt.

    Embarassing 4th quarter for the entire team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    I listened to the game on Sunday, just watched the end of it this morning. As inconsistent as Hundley and the offense were, they still lead 17-16 with 14:46 to go in the game. Following a kickoff, NO had the ball at their own 14. The game was there to be won.

    The defense did nothing to win the game.
    The offense did nothing to win the game.
    STs negated a decent kickoff return with a penalty to put the offense at their own 10 yard line, and had a penalty on a punt.

    Embarassing 4th quarter for the entire team.
    I don't understand what happened with the solid players on 'O'? Where was the play calling and these guys?

    Why weren't there more plays to WR's Jordy Nelson, Devanta Adams, Randall Cobb and even Martellus Bennett?

    Where are the 10-20 yards crossing routes and shallow Hook Patterns? What happened to the Screen Pass?

    It's pretty obvious now that Aaron Jones is the REAL RB and that he has good hands and can even attempt and complete Blocks. Clearly Aaron Jones is our NO. 1 RB. Still MM has to somehow use TY Montgomery in passing plays when the opposing teams Safety is drawn to the LOS and get the ball to him over the top of the LBers.

    Why not use an Offensive set splitting Aaron Jones and Ty Montgomery to draw the opposing teams 'D' to the outside and then use Aaron Ripkowski to run through the middle?

    Where's Mike McCarthy's imagination and any real hope of winning a football game?


    I get the part and Brett Hundley and Conservative to protect the ball (Picks).I get not showing us much of an arm and the deep pass. All the same Brett Hundley has to pass for more than 150 yards in the NFL to have any decent chance of winning and < 100 Yards = ridiculous play calling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post

    Why not use an Offensive set splitting Aaron Jones and Ty Montgomery to draw the opposing teams 'D' to the outside and then use Aaron Ripkowski to run through the middle?
    because he will fumble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    I don't understand what happened with the solid players on 'O'? Where was the play calling and these guys?

    Why weren't there more plays to WR's Jordy Nelson, Devanta Adams, Randall Cobb and even Martellus Bennett?

    Where are the 10-20 yards crossing routes and shallow Hook Patterns? What happened to the Screen Pass?

    It's pretty obvious now that Aaron Jones is the REAL RB and that he has good hands and can even attempt and complete Blocks. Clearly Aaron Jones is our NO. 1 RB. Still MM has to somehow use TY Montgomery in passing plays when the opposing teams Safety is drawn to the LOS and get the ball to him over the top of the LBers.

    Why not use an Offensive set splitting Aaron Jones and Ty Montgomery to draw the opposing teams 'D' to the outside and then use Aaron Ripkowski to run through the middle?

    Where's Mike McCarthy's imagination and any real hope of winning a football game?


    I get the part and Brett Hundley and Conservative to protect the ball (Picks).I get not showing us much of an arm and the deep pass. All the same Brett Hundley has to pass for more than 150 yards in the NFL to have any decent chance of winning and < 100 Yards = ridiculous play calling.
    To be honest, I am more frustrated with the D and STs. The O lost it's leader, yet they put together an effective running game. At times Hundley did some good things. I didn't expect much more. They had a lead to start the 4th quarter, and NO was at their own 14. A stop by the D could have given GB some control. it took them 60 yards to make the "stop", holding the saints to a FG. The possession was only 8 plays, yet Matthews and Perry apparently had to be rested for a couple of the big ones. If these guys are worth their salaries, where were they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    To be honest, I am more frustrated with the D and STs. The O lost it's leader, yet they put together an effective running game. At times Hundley did some good things. I didn't expect much more. They had a lead to start the 4th quarter, and NO was at their own 14. A stop by the D could have given GB some control. it took them 60 yards to make the "stop", holding the saints to a FG. The possession was only 8 plays, yet Matthews and Perry apparently had to be rested for a couple of the big ones. If these guys are worth their salaries, where were they?
    I hear ya. But I did see Khalil Mack on the sideline for a critical play the other night too.
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    75 plays on Defense versus 50 on offense and missing Brooks has costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patler View Post
    To be honest, I am more frustrated with the D and STs. The O lost it's leader, yet they put together an effective running game. At times Hundley did some good things. I didn't expect much more. They had a lead to start the 4th quarter, and NO was at their own 14. A stop by the D could have given GB some control. it took them 60 yards to make the "stop", holding the saints to a FG. The possession was only 8 plays, yet Matthews and Perry apparently had to be rested for a couple of the big ones. If these guys are worth their salaries, where were they?
    The Packer 'O' was bad on 3rd Downs. The Packer Passing Game wasn't at all adequate to ever imagine competing in the NFL. The Offensive Game Plan wasn't at all adequate.

    New Orleans Stat's Vs Green Bay

    Total First Downs 25 Total First Downs 16
    By Rushing 7 By Rushing 8
    By Passing 16 By Passing 4
    By Penalty 2 By Penalty 4

    Third Down Efficiency 8/15 - 53% Third Down Efficiency 4/11 - 36%

    Fourth Down Efficiency 1/1 - 100% Fourth Down Efficiency 0/0 - 0%


    Total Net Yards 485 Total Net Yards 260

    Total Rushing/Passing Plays (includes Sacks) 75 Total Rushing/Passing Plays (includes Sacks) 50

    Average Gain per Offensive Play 6.5 Average Gain per Offensive Play 5.2

    Net Yards Rushing 161 Net Yards Rushing 181

    Total Rushing Plays 36 Total Rushing Plays 24

    Average Gain per Rushing Play 4.5 Average Gain per Rushing Play 7.5

    Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 2--5 Tackled for a Loss (Number-Yards) 3--6

    Net Yards Passing 324 Net Yards Passing 79

    Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 1 - 7 Times Sacked (Number-Yards) 1 - 8

    Gross Yards Passing 331 Gross Yards Passing 87

    Pass Comp-Att-Int 27 - 38 - 2 Pass Comp-Att-Int 12 - 25 - 1
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    Montgomery showed quickness and power last season to get good yardage when a hole opened. Jones showed better quickness, but more significantly this season, he showed that he could innovate - bounce or reverse his field or whatever and gain good yards when there was no hole, as happens so often with our O Line.

    Just the same, keeping Montgomery is obvious, considering the possibility of injury to Jones. I'd like to see some use of Davonte Mays also. He looked pretty good in the preseason.
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    "Hundley wasn't given a lot of opportunities. Maybe if defense gets off field a few more times he has more opportunities."

    Uh oh. When the head coach starts saying things like this, maybe the defensive coordinator better start planning his retirement.

    I did not think Hundley played well, and after two-and-a-half years of Hundley watching and practicing, I expected better. He's not some rookie being tossed in the fire. After all, MM got all pissed when someone asked him about signing CK, saying MM's got three years wrapped up in Hundley. I didn't see a guy that looked prepared.

    The defense was awful in the fourth quarter, too. There is just no pass rush whatsoever. When NO would get stopped on first and second down, I always thought it was no big deal because Brees could easily get big chunks of yards on third down. And he often did.

    This team is in a funk. They need to snap out of it or it will be a long, awful season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    "Hundley wasn't given a lot of opportunities. Maybe if defense gets off field a few more times he has more opportunities."

    Uh oh. When the head coach starts saying things like this, maybe the defensive coordinator better start planning his retirement.

    I did not think Hundley played well, and after two-and-a-half years of Hundley watching and practicing, I expected better. He's not some rookie being tossed in the fire. After all, MM got all pissed when someone asked him about signing CK, saying MM's got three years wrapped up in Hundley. I didn't see a guy that looked prepared.

    The defense was awful in the fourth quarter, too. There is just no pass rush whatsoever. When NO would get stopped on first and second down, I always thought it was no big deal because Brees could easily get big chunks of yards on third down. And he often did.

    This team is in a funk. They need to snap out of it or it will be a long, awful season.
    Yes.
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    Maybe with Rodgers gone the entire world will finally see we need a new direction on defense. We can only hope...

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