Casey Hayward wins November defensive player of the month

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was it injuries or the system that slowed up casey

gotta remember, hyde was also just decent here, and is now a star in buffalo

were we not using them right?

and to add to it, we let cook go, he's having a monster year. we thought peppers was done, he's having a big year in carolina (and we really could use a pass rush)

we've let a lot of guys walk that have gone on to be good players

This is yet more evidence that Capers needs to "retire".

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This is yet more evidence that Capers needs to "retire".

so, you think its coaching more then self scouting or whatever, or both?

its been the debate for a while, is it capers or TT, and i think because of that question, both have managed to keep their jobs. we can't fire Capers, because it might be TT's fault, we can't fire TT because it could be capers.

so instead, we just keep sucking on defense