Shazier

[texaspackerbacker]

Is $200,000 what practice squad guys get? That's a LOT for regular people, a damn lot, and upward steeply from there. True, it's not enough to get messed up for life, but figuring in the very small likelihood of anything serious enough to do that, it's easily a risk worth taking - and if somebody thinks it's not, I say again, he can quit and get a real job - a lot less fun in virtually all cases, and a tiny fraction of the money.

[pbmax]

Is $200,000 what practice squad guys get? That's a LOT for regular people, a damn lot, and upward steeply from there. True, it's not enough to get messed up for life, but figuring in the very small likelihood of anything serious enough to do that, it's easily a risk worth taking - and if somebody thinks it's not, I say again, he can quit and get a real job - a lot less fun in virtually all cases, and a tiny fraction of the money.

If you have a contract in the offseason, you can approach $200,000 for the years before veteran minimums kick in. But PS players get $7,200 per week. I don't know what undrafted rookies get in the offseason though. Problem with being young and injured though is that your odds of getting cut and not reaching the minimum are much higher.

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If you have a contract in the offseason, you can approach $200,000 for the years before veteran minimums kick in. But PS players get $7,200 per week. I don't know what undrafted rookies get in the offseason though. Problem with being young and injured though is that your odds of getting cut and not reaching the minimum are much higher.

i think that is for the week, just during the season. i don't think they get paid during the offseason

[pbmax]

i think that is for the week, just during the season. i don't think they get paid during the offseason

I think it varies. Some PS guys do sign as UDFAs and get bonuses plus the minimum contract. Some are FAs signed near or in camp.

Each has the minimum contract, but I am not sure what the schedule of payments is. So Rand might be right about the absolute minimum being 200K, but if payments are made August through January/February, then you won't see a dime beyond that $5,000 signing bonus until camp.

You get hurt and that is 5 months on $5,000 plus one weekly check.

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I think it varies. Some PS guys do sign as UDFAs and get bonuses plus the minimum contract. Some are FAs signed near or in camp.

Each has the minimum contract, but I am not sure what the schedule of payments is. So Rand might be right about the absolute minimum being 200K, but if payments are made August through January/February, then you won't see a dime beyond that $5,000 signing bonus until camp.

You get hurt and that is 5 months on $5,000 plus one weekly check.

no, he's not right

PS players get at minimum 7,200 dollars per week, for 17 weeks, and only 17 weeks. so the average PS players makes 122,400 a year. nfl players get paid 17 weeks out of the year, not weekly like everyone else. however players do get a little cash during training camp and preseason, which is about $1,000 a week for first year players and less then $2,000 a week for vets

if an undrafted free agent signs a 300,000 deal after the draft, but ends up on the PS, he's only going to make 122,400, NOT 300,000. PS guys are released, and then re signed. if they get called back up to the real roster, then he signs a new contract

no packer PS player was making more then 7,200 a week this year, so no, PS players don't often get paid more then the minimum

and to tex's point, thats still damn good money for most of us

[Cheesehead Craig]

I remember seeing a video from a player who was talking about how hard it is to get on a team as just a PS player. Once your cut from the team you lose access to all the weights and training staff. You are then on your own to get yourself into NFL shape and you can't just go to your local Anytime Fitness and expect to compete at that high level. If those guys want to continue their NFL careers they're spending a lot of money out of pocket for personal trainers and access to equipment. And then you're hoping that you get onto a team. But if you end up spending a significant portion of that money that you do get paid on trying to make teams and you get stuck on practice squads that's a rough life regardless. Because then those guys have to make themselves available during the NFL season, so it's hard for them to pursue a career outside of football until they decide to give up on it.

[woodbuck27]

I remember seeing a video from a player who was talking about how hard it is to get on a team as just a PS player. Once your cut from the team you lose access to all the weights and training staff. You are then on your own to get yourself into NFL shape and you can't just go to your local Anytime Fitness and expect to compete at that high level. If those guys want to continue their NFL careers they're spending a lot of money out of pocket for personal trainers and access to equipment. And then you're hoping that you get onto a team. But if you end up spending a significant portion of that money that you do get paid on trying to make teams and you get stuck on practice squads that's a rough life regardless. Because then those guys have to make themselves available during the NFL season, so it's hard for them to pursue a career outside of football until they decide to give up on it.

Yes.

[pbmax]

I remember seeing a video from a player who was talking about how hard it is to get on a team as just a PS player. Once your cut from the team you lose access to all the weights and training staff. You are then on your own to get yourself into NFL shape and you can't just go to your local Anytime Fitness and expect to compete at that high level. If those guys want to continue their NFL careers they're spending a lot of money out of pocket for personal trainers and access to equipment. And then you're hoping that you get onto a team. But if you end up spending a significant portion of that money that you do get paid on trying to make teams and you get stuck on practice squads that's a rough life regardless. Because then those guys have to make themselves available during the NFL season, so it's hard for them to pursue a career outside of football until they decide to give up on it.

Excellent points.

Don't forget that the best PEDs aren't cheap either.

[Fosco33]

Trying picking vs spread with confidence points.

[esoxx]

Trying picking vs spread with confidence points.

Man up, Sally

[Fosco33]

Man up, Sally

I've won 50+ person pickem pools and did decent playing in this one. Straight up is just boring imo.

[woodbuck27]

I've won 50+ person pickem pools and did decent playing in this one. Straight up is just boring imo.

I can't wait to see if you can ever get beyond just being bored and ever winning a Packerrats Pro Pickem Championship.

I will beg to differ and emphasize that trying to be a Pro Pickem Packerrat Champ is hardly boring.

It takes real smarts that exceeds anyone who gets easily bored.

Teens get bored not decent NFL analysts (Pro or Amateur).

Year after year I've seen this.

Any Packerrat that wins a Pro Pickem Championship has analyzed NFL Scheduled Games and predicted results well within the Top 10% of all Pro Analysts. That Level of predicting results seldom (if ever) includes any Ex NFL Player or Coach.

[woodbuck27]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...spinal-surgery

Ryan Shazier Placed on IR by Steelers After Undergoing Spinal Surgery

MIKE CHIARI .... DECEMBER 12, 2017

[mraynrand]

I've won 50+ person pickem pools and did decent playing in this one. Straight up is just boring imo.

boss

[woodbuck27]

Trying picking vs spread with confidence points.

Not meaning any disrespect:

I don't mix up Gambling Vs Pro Pickem Analysis.

I study the NFL and use competent analysis to make concrete predictions. I use everything to my advantage to do that.

That doesn't usually have any huge bearing on a Vegas Line and any Pro Sports Matchup.

[pbmax]

Schefter reports that Shazier still has movement but it being limited as long as he has swelling from the injury.

He writes like the only open question is his playing career.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...nt-back-injury

While he remains hospitalized in Pittsburgh, Steelers linebacker Ryan Shazier continues to show gradual improvement from his back injury, people familiar with his condition told ESPN.

Doctors are controlling and limiting his movement as they wait for the swelling and bruising in his back to subside, sources said.

It is premature to say whether Shazier will play football again, but the focus right now is not on his playing career but on trying to facilitate his recovery.

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thats good news for him

the weird thing to me about the injury, was that it was the side of the neck that took the blow, but it was the middle of his back that was injured

kinda reminded me of this

[gbgary]

"gradual improvement"...hope it continues.

[pbmax]

Shazier posted a video of he and family watching Steelers game last night. So he is alert and his phone hand/arm are working fine.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Shazier posted a video of he and family watching Steelers game last night. So he is alert and his phone hand/arm are working fine.

So PornHub is back in play.