2018: Nelson or Cobb

[Smidgeon]

Many pundits are claiming with Nelson and Cobb both on big contracts (at least through next year) and it being absolutely imperative they sign Adams, the Packers will have to choose between Nelson or Cobb.

My personal view is they'll keep both and sign Adams. The Packers have kept big contracts before that everyone anticipated they'd cut.

How do the rats see this one falling out?

[Pugger]

I think both will be back and Ted will draft a WR this spring.

[Fosco33]

I hope we keep all 3 but could see Cobb gone. Hope Clays gone too. Good players but would need to take cuts to invest in the future imo.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I said cut both. But on second thought, Cobb may have a little more tread on the tire. He looks dead, but lets see rest of season.

[Harlan Huckleby]

This is a two year old article (add two years to age, Einstein)

WR is a very young position. Jordy at 33 will be pretty ancient.
Although Jordy with Rodgers might be viable. Even Fred Sanford can catch an accurate back shoulder throw.

Player Position Team Birthday Age

Steve Smith WR Ravens 5/12/1979 37
Vincent Jackson WR Buccaneers 1/14/1983 33
Nate Washington WR Patriots 8/28/1983 32
Larry Fitzgerald WR Cardinals 8/31/1983 32
Brandon Marshall WR Jets 3/23/1984 32
Ted Ginn WR Panthers 4/12/1985 31
Jordy Nelson WR Packers 5/31/1985 31
Danny Amendola WR Patriots 11/2/1985 30
Andrew Hawkins WR Browns 3/10/1986 30
Eddie Royal WR Bears 5/21/1986 30
Julian Edelman WR Patriots 5/22/1986 30
Stevie Johnson WR Chargers 7/22/1986 29
Mike Wallace WR Ravens 8/1/1986 29
Pierre Garcon WR Redskins 8/8/1986 29
Jordan Norwood WR Broncos 9/29/1986 29
Brandon LeFell WR Bengals 11/4/1986 29
Victor Cruz WR Giants 11/11/1986 29
DeSean Jackson WR Redskins 12/1/1986 29
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Steelers 2/26/1987 29
Eric Decker WR Jets 3/15/1987 29
Emmanuel Sanders WR Broncos 3/17/1987 29
Michael Crabtree WR Raiders 9/14/1987 28
Demaryius Thomas WR Broncos 10/25/1987 28
Cecil Shorts WR Texans 12/22/1987 28
Jeremy Maclin WR Chiefs 5/11/1988 28
Antonio Brown WR Steelers 7/10/1988 27
AJ Green WR Bengals 7/31/1988 27
Golden Tate WR Lions 8/2/1988 27
Kenny Britt WR Rams 9/19/1988 27
Doug Baldwin WR Seahawks 9/21/1988 27
Dez Bryant WR Cowboys 11/4/1988 27
Jeremy Kerley WR Lions 11/8/1988 27
Torrey Smith WR 49ers 1/26/1989 27
Julio Jones WR Falcons 2/3/1989 27
Cole Beasley WR Cowboys 4/26/1989 27
Kamar Aiken WR Ravens 5/30/1989 27
Brian Quick WR Rams 6/5/1989 27
Mohamed Sanu WR Falcons 8/22/1989 26
Terrance Williams WR Cowboys 9/18/1989 26
Rishard Matthews WR Titans 10/12/1989 26
Kendall Wright WR Titans 11/12/1989 26
TY Hilton WR Colts 11/14/1989 26
Jarius Wright WR Vikings 11/25/1989 26
Michael Floyd WR Cardinals 11/27/1989 26
Travis Benjamin WR Chargers 12/29/1989 26
Jermaine Kearse WR Seahawks 2/6/1990 26
Alshon Jeffery WR Bears 2/14/1990 26
Marvin Jones WR Lions 3/12/1990 26
John Brown WR Cardinals 4/3/1990 26
Quinton Patton WR 49ers 8/9/1990 25
Randall Cobb WR Packers 8/22/1990 25
Marquise Goodwin WR Bills 11/19/1990 25
Kelvin Benjamin WR Panthers 2/5/1991 25
Markus Wheaton WR Steelers 2/7/1991 25
Taylor Gabriel WR Browns 2/17/1991 25
Seth Roberts WR Raiders 2/22/1991 25
Tavon Austin WR Rams 3/15/1991 25
Rueben Randle WR Eagles 5/7/1991 25
Bruce Ellington WR 49ers 8/22/1991 24
Allen Hurns WR Jaguars 11/12/1991 24
Marqise Lee WR Jaguars 11/25/1991 24
Justin Hardy WR Falcons 12/18/1991 24
Robert Woods WR Bills 4/10/1992 24
Kenny Stills WR Dolphins 4/22/1992 24
Keenan Allen WR Chargers 4/27/1992 24
Quincy Enunwa WR Jets 5/31/1992 23
DeAndre Hopkins WR Texans 6/6/1992 24
Brandon Coleman WR Saints 6/22/1992 24
Albert Wilson WR Chiefs 7/12/1992 23
Jordan Matthews WR Eagles 7/16/1992 23
Tyler Lockett WR Seahawks 9/28/1992 23
Willie Snead WR Saints 10/17/1992 23
Chris Conley WR Chiefs 10/25/1992 23
Odell Beckham Jr. WR Giants 11/5/1992 23
Jarvis Landry WR Dolphins 11/28/1992 23
Davante Adams WR Packers 12/24/1992 23
Phillip Dorsett WR Colts 1/5/1993 23
DeVante Parker WR Dolphins 1/20/1993 23
Dorial Green-Beckham WR Titans 4/12/1993 23
Nelson Agholor WR Eagles 5/24/1993 23
Sammy Watkins WR Bills 6/14/1993 23
Jamison Crowder WR Redskins 6/17/1993 23
Adam Humphries WR Buccaneers 6/24/1993 23
Kevin White WR Bears 6/25/1993 23
Donte Moncrief WR Colts 8/6/1993 22
Mike Evans WR Buccaneers 8/21/1993 22
Allen Robinson WR Jaguars 8/24/1993 22
Brandin Cooks WR Saints 9/25/1993 22
Stefon Diggs WR Vikings 11/29/1993 22
Sterling Shepard WR Giants 2/10/1994 22
Will Fuller WR Texans 4/16/1994 22
Devin Funchess WR Panthers 5/21/1994 22
Amari Cooper WR Raiders 6/17/1994 22
Corey Coleman WR Browns 7/6/1994 21
Tyler Boyd WR Bengals 11/15/1994 21
Laquon Treadwell WR Vikings 6/14/1995 21

http://www.phillyvoice.com/nfl-age-i...ill-positions/

[Fritz]

I said cut both. But on second thought, Cobb may have a little more tread on the tire. He looks dead, but lets see rest of season.

I thinks Ted says Siyanora to Cobb. Nelson comes back, Clark steps up, Ted drafts a second-round wonder.

[pbmax]

Neither are going anywhere. Even if you cut one, who is ready to be #3?

Maybe, maybe, if they move Monty back to WR they may let Cobb go as Monty can play he slot.

[Tony Oday]

Cut Cobb, Restructure CMIII and make sure TT still is $10 mil under the cap.

[woodbuck27]

For one more Season if TT can swing it..keep both Cobb and Nelson.

Get rid of Clay Mathews ..he is done as a Packer.

[hoosier]

Impossible to know what they still have in Nelson and Cobb until there is a real QB back there. I would punt, draft a receiver on second day (pass rusher on first), and make the big decision about the dinosaurs in August.

[yetisnowman]

Neither are going anywhere. Even if you cut one, who is ready to be #3?

Maybe, maybe, if they move Monty back to WR they may let Cobb go as Monty can play he slot.

I know this is going to sound crazy, but hear me out....
Since Cobb and Nelson appear to no longer be effective as #2, or #3 options you address it by adding WRs through free agency, the draft and/or trades.

Unless you think having a 34 year old who can't gain a yard on a wr screen as your #2, #3 is a viable option for another year.

[pbmax]

I know this is going to sound crazy, but hear me out....
Since Cobb and Nelson appear to no longer be effective as #2, or #3 options you address it by adding WRs through free agency, the draft and/or trades.

Unless you think having a 34 year old who can't gain a yard on a wr screen as your #2, #3 is a viable option for another year.

Lotta effective 34 yo WRs. No reason to dump him because Hundley can't find him, he was doing fine with Rodgers but he is not the same player. FA is mixed bag. They are all on market for same reason Nelson would be; no longer the same value or talent. You have to replace the talent AND get him for cheaper to make a switch pay off unless you have a younger player ready to go.

Cobb is slightly different as he might be effectively replaced by Monty. But that requires another position switch.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Cobb is slightly different as he might be effectively replaced by Monty. But that requires another position switch.

Ya, I forgot about that.

Wait a sec, Cobb does have some QB experience....

[Harlan Huckleby]

Lotta effective 34 yo WRs.

See my list above, fuck face. They are rare.

Jordy will be serious contender for oldest wideout in league.

But I do hedge my bet just cause Jordy has worked magic with AROD for a long time with timing.

[mraynrand]

I bet they can get these guys back for Packer-friendly contracts. Or they can start practicing to take over for Jennings when he gets fired.

[pbmax]

Jordy Ray Nelson (born May 31, 1985), aged 32 currently, will be 33 at the start of the 2017-18 season.

Here is a partial list of some good seasons by WR 33 years old or more. See if you recognize any of the names as quality WR vets.

                                                                                            
                                       Game Game Rece Rece Rece  Rece Rece  Rece  Rece  Rece
Rk             Player Year Age  Tm  Lg    G   GS  Tgt  Rec  Yds   Y/R   TD   Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt
1         Jerry Rice* 1995  33 SFO NFL   16   16  176  122 1848 15.15   15 115.5 69.3% 10.50
2       Anquan Boldin 2013  33 SFO NFL   16   16  129   85 1179 13.87    7  73.7 65.9%  9.14
3       Anquan Boldin 2014  34 SFO NFL   16   16  130   83 1062 12.80    5  66.4 63.8%  8.17
4          Tim Brown* 2002  36 OAK NFL   16   16  127   81  930 11.48    2  58.1 63.8%  7.32
5          Tim Brown* 2000  34 OAK NFL   16   16  133   76 1128 14.84   11  70.5 57.1%  8.48
6          Tim Brown* 2001  35 OAK NFL   16   16  140   91 1165 12.80    9  72.8 65.0%  8.32
7          Tim Brown* 1999  33 OAK NFL   16   16  145   90 1344 14.93    6  84.0 62.1%  9.27
8         Isaac Bruce 2008  36 SFO NFL   16   15  108   61  835 13.69    7  52.2 56.5%  7.73
9         Isaac Bruce 2006  34 STL NFL   16   13  126   74 1098 14.84    3  68.6 58.7%  8.71
10       Cris Carter* 2000  35 MIN NFL   16   16  161   96 1274 13.27    9  79.6 59.6%  7.91
11       Cris Carter* 1998  33 MIN NFL   16   16  125   78 1011 12.96   12  63.2 62.4%  8.09
12       Cris Carter* 2001  36 MIN NFL   16   16  130   73  871 11.93    6  54.4 56.2%  6.70
13       Cris Carter* 1999  34 MIN NFL   16   16  137   90 1241 13.79   13  77.6 65.7%  9.06
14      Donald Driver 2008  33 GNB NFL   16   16  116   74 1012 13.68    5  63.3 63.8%  8.72
15      Donald Driver 2009  34 GNB NFL   16   16  113   70 1061 15.16    6  66.3 61.9%  9.39
16       Henry Ellard 1996  35 WAS NFL   16   16   98   52 1014 19.50    2  63.4 53.1% 10.35
17       Henry Ellard 1994  33 WAS NFL   16   16  150   74 1397 18.88    6  87.3 49.3%  9.31
18       Henry Ellard 1995  34 WAS NFL   15   15  113   56 1005 17.95    5  67.0 49.6%  8.89
19       Bobby Engram 2007  34 SEA NFL   16   13  134   94 1147 12.20    6  71.7 70.1%  8.56
20   Larry Fitzgerald 2017  34 ARI NFL   12   12  116   82  878 10.71    5  73.2 70.7%  7.57
21   Larry Fitzgerald 2016  33 ARI NFL   16   16  150  107 1023  9.56    6  63.9 71.3%  6.82
22       Malcom Floyd 2014  33 SDG NFL   16   16   92   52  856 16.46    6  53.5 56.5%  9.30
23       Irving Fryar 1997  35 PHI NFL   16   16  153   86 1316 15.30    6  82.3 56.2%  8.60
24       Irving Fryar 1995  33 MIA NFL   16   16  109   62  910 14.68    8  56.9 56.9%  8.35
25       Irving Fryar 1996  34 PHI NFL   16   16  152   88 1195 13.58   11  74.7 57.9%  7.86
26      Joey Galloway 2007  36 TAM NFL   15   15   98   57 1014 17.79    6  67.6 58.2% 10.35
27      Joey Galloway 2005  34 TAM NFL   16   16  152   83 1287 15.51   10  80.4 54.6%  8.47
28      Joey Galloway 2006  35 TAM NFL   16   14  143   62 1057 17.05    7  66.1 43.4%  7.39
29      Antonio Gates 2014  34 SDG NFL   16   14   98   69  821 11.90   12  51.3 70.4%  8.38
30      Antonio Gates 2013  33 SDG NFL   16   15  114   77  872 11.32    4  54.5 67.5%  7.65
31      Tony Gonzalez 2013  37 ATL NFL   16   16  121   83  859 10.35    8  53.7 68.6%  7.10
32      Tony Gonzalez 2011  35 ATL NFL   16   16  116   80  875 10.94    7  54.7 69.0%  7.54
33      Tony Gonzalez 2012  36 ATL NFL   16   16  124   93  930 10.00    8  58.1 75.0%  7.50
34      Tony Gonzalez 2009  33 ATL NFL   16   16  134   83  867 10.45    6  54.2 61.9%  6.47
35   Marvin Harrison* 2005  33 IND NFL   15   15  134   82 1146 13.98   12  76.4 61.2%  8.55
36   Marvin Harrison* 2006  34 IND NFL   16   16  148   95 1366 14.38   12  85.4 64.2%  9.23
37      Andre Johnson 2014  33 HOU NFL   15   15  146   85  936 11.01    3  62.4 58.2%  6.41
38   Keyshawn Johnson 2006  34 CAR NFL   16   16  128   70  815 11.64    4  50.9 54.7%  6.37
39   Keyshawn Johnson 2005  33 DAL NFL   16   14  123   71  839 11.82    6  52.4 57.7%  6.82
40     Eddie Kennison 2006  33 KAN NFL   16   16  101   53  860 16.23    5  53.8 52.5%  8.51
41        Tony Martin 1998  33 ATL NFL   16   16  131   66 1181 17.89    6  73.8 50.4%  9.02
42        Tony Martin 1999  34 MIA NFL   16   13  117   67 1037 15.48    5  64.8 57.3%  8.86
43      Derrick Mason 2010  36 BAL NFL   16   15  100   61  802 13.15    7  50.1 61.0%  8.02
44      Derrick Mason 2008  34 BAL NFL   16   16  121   80 1037 12.96    5  64.8 66.1%  8.57
45      Derrick Mason 2009  35 BAL NFL   16   16  134   73 1028 14.08    7  64.3 54.5%  7.67
46      Derrick Mason 2007  33 BAL NFL   16   16  164  103 1087 10.55    5  67.9 62.8%  6.63
47       Ed McCaffrey 2002  34 DEN NFL   16   16  103   69  903 13.09    2  56.4 67.0%  8.77
48   Keenan McCardell 2003  33 TAM NFL   16   16  139   84 1174 13.98    8  73.4 60.4%  8.45
49   Keenan McCardell 2005  35 SDG NFL   16   16  108   70  917 13.10    9  57.3 64.8%  8.49
50    Muhsin Muhammad 2006  33 CHI NFL   16   16  117   60  863 14.38    5  53.9 51.3%  7.38
51    Muhsin Muhammad 2008  35 CAR NFL   16   15  107   65  923 14.20    5  57.7 60.7%  8.63
52      Terrell Owens 2009  36 BUF NFL   16   16  109   55  829 15.07    5  51.8 50.5%  7.61
53      Terrell Owens 2007  34 DAL NFL   15   15  141   81 1355 16.73   15  90.3 57.4%  9.61
54      Terrell Owens 2010  37 CIN NFL   14   11  139   72  983 13.65    9  70.2 51.8%  7.07
55      Terrell Owens 2008  35 DAL NFL   16   16  140   69 1052 15.25   10  65.8 49.3%  7.51
56      Terrell Owens 2006  33 DAL NFL   16   15  150   85 1180 13.88   13  73.8 56.7%  7.87
57        Andre Reed* 1997  33 BUF NFL   15   15  114   60  880 14.67    5  58.7 52.6%  7.72
58        Jerry Rice* 2002  40 OAK NFL   16   16  150   92 1211 13.16    7  75.7 61.3%  8.07
59        Jerry Rice* 2000  38 SFO NFL   16   16  122   75  805 10.73    7  50.3 61.5%  6.60
60        Jerry Rice* 1998  36 SFO NFL   16   16  151   82 1157 14.11    9  72.3 54.3%  7.66
61        Jerry Rice* 2003  41 OAK NFL   16   15  124   63  869 13.79    2  54.3 50.8%  7.01
62        Jerry Rice* 2001  39 OAK NFL   16   15  125   83 1139 13.72    9  71.2 66.4%  9.11
63        Jerry Rice* 1999  37 SFO NFL   16   16  124   67  830 12.39    5  51.9 54.0%  6.69
64        Jerry Rice* 1996  34 SFO NFL   16   16  153  108 1254 11.61    8  78.4 70.6%  8.20
65    Shannon Sharpe* 2001  33 BAL NFL   16   15  114   73  811 11.11    2  50.7 64.0%  7.11
66        Jimmy Smith 2004  35 JAX NFL   16   16  137   74 1172 15.84    6  73.3 54.0%  8.55
67        Jimmy Smith 2002  33 JAX NFL   16   16  137   80 1027 12.84    7  64.2 58.4%  7.50
68        Jimmy Smith 2005  36 JAX NFL   16   16  128   70 1023 14.61    6  63.9 54.7%  7.99
69        Jimmy Smith 2003  34 JAX NFL   12   12  112   54  805 14.91    4  67.1 48.2%  7.19
70          Rod Smith 2005  35 DEN NFL   16   16  126   85 1105 13.00    6  69.1 67.5%  8.77
71          Rod Smith 2003  33 DEN NFL   15   15  114   74  845 11.42    3  56.3 64.9%  7.41
72          Rod Smith 2004  34 DEN NFL   16   16  136   79 1144 14.48    7  71.5 58.1%  8.41
73        Steve Smith 2012  33 CAR NFL   16   16  137   73 1174 16.08    4  73.4 53.3%  8.57
74        Steve Smith 2014  35 BAL NFL   16   16  134   79 1065 13.48    6  66.6 59.0%  7.95
75       Wesley Walls 1999  33 CAR NFL   16   16  108   63  822 13.05   12  51.4 58.3%  7.61
76         Hines Ward 2009  33 PIT NFL   16   16  137   95 1167 12.28    6  72.9 69.3%  8.52
77         Ben Watson 2015  35 NOR NFL   16   16  110   74  825 11.15    6  51.6 67.3%  7.50
78       Reggie Wayne 2012  34 IND NFL   16   15  195  106 1355 12.78    5  84.7 54.4%  6.95
79       Reggie Wayne 2011  33 IND NFL   16   16  132   75  960 12.80    4  60.0 56.8%  7.27
80        Roddy White 2014  33 ATL NFL   14   14  125   80  921 11.51    7  65.8 64.0%  7.37

Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 12/7/2017.

[pbmax]

See my list above, fuck face. They are rare.

Jordy will be serious contender for oldest wideout in league.

But I do hedge my bet just cause Jordy has worked magic with AROD for a long time with timing.

You should have hedged your bet for more reasons than that:

1. Your chart is out of date for ages, it lists Larry Fitzgerald as 32 when he is 34
2. Anquan Boldin retiring this year because of the Bills dismantling their roster skewed your list
3. 39 year old Steve Smith retired this year before the season
4. There are 3 - 34 yo WRs in the League playing this year, 2 of which are starting

[Pugger]

Impossible to know what they still have in Nelson and Cobb until there is a real QB back there. I would punt, draft a receiver on second day (pass rusher on first), and make the big decision about the dinosaurs in August.

GMTA

[Harlan Huckleby]

1. Your chart is out of date for ages, it lists Larry Fitzgerald as 32 when he is 34

Reread the post with the list, it has a custom insult for you.

You make the point that historically there have been many successful old guys. It's also true that there are currently very few old WRs, with Jordy possibly being oldest next year. Has NFL gotten to be younger game?

[Zool]

Neither are going anywhere. Even if you cut one, who is ready to be #3?

Maybe, maybe, if they move Monty back to WR they may let Cobb go as Monty can play he slot.

That would put about $40mil at the WR position for next season. Doesn’t seem likely