For one more Season if TT can swing it..keep both Cobb and Nelson.
Get rid of Clay Mathews ..he is done as a Packer.
Keep Nelson, Cut Cobb
Keep Cobb, Cut Nelson
Keep Both
Cut Both
For one more Season if TT can swing it..keep both Cobb and Nelson.
Get rid of Clay Mathews ..he is done as a Packer.
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Impossible to know what they still have in Nelson and Cobb until there is a real QB back there. I would punt, draft a receiver on second day (pass rusher on first), and make the big decision about the dinosaurs in August.
GMTAOriginally Posted by hoosier
I bet they can get these guys back for Packer-friendly contracts. Or they can start practicing to take over for Jennings when he gets fired.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Jordy Ray Nelson (born May 31, 1985), aged 32 currently, will be 33 at the start of the 2017-18 season.
Here is a partial list of some good seasons by WR 33 years old or more. See if you recognize any of the names as quality WR vets.
Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original TableCode:Game Game Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rece Rk Player Year Age Tm Lg G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt 1 Jerry Rice* 1995 33 SFO NFL 16 16 176 122 1848 15.15 15 115.5 69.3% 10.50 2 Anquan Boldin 2013 33 SFO NFL 16 16 129 85 1179 13.87 7 73.7 65.9% 9.14 3 Anquan Boldin 2014 34 SFO NFL 16 16 130 83 1062 12.80 5 66.4 63.8% 8.17 4 Tim Brown* 2002 36 OAK NFL 16 16 127 81 930 11.48 2 58.1 63.8% 7.32 5 Tim Brown* 2000 34 OAK NFL 16 16 133 76 1128 14.84 11 70.5 57.1% 8.48 6 Tim Brown* 2001 35 OAK NFL 16 16 140 91 1165 12.80 9 72.8 65.0% 8.32 7 Tim Brown* 1999 33 OAK NFL 16 16 145 90 1344 14.93 6 84.0 62.1% 9.27 8 Isaac Bruce 2008 36 SFO NFL 16 15 108 61 835 13.69 7 52.2 56.5% 7.73 9 Isaac Bruce 2006 34 STL NFL 16 13 126 74 1098 14.84 3 68.6 58.7% 8.71 10 Cris Carter* 2000 35 MIN NFL 16 16 161 96 1274 13.27 9 79.6 59.6% 7.91 11 Cris Carter* 1998 33 MIN NFL 16 16 125 78 1011 12.96 12 63.2 62.4% 8.09 12 Cris Carter* 2001 36 MIN NFL 16 16 130 73 871 11.93 6 54.4 56.2% 6.70 13 Cris Carter* 1999 34 MIN NFL 16 16 137 90 1241 13.79 13 77.6 65.7% 9.06 14 Donald Driver 2008 33 GNB NFL 16 16 116 74 1012 13.68 5 63.3 63.8% 8.72 15 Donald Driver 2009 34 GNB NFL 16 16 113 70 1061 15.16 6 66.3 61.9% 9.39 16 Henry Ellard 1996 35 WAS NFL 16 16 98 52 1014 19.50 2 63.4 53.1% 10.35 17 Henry Ellard 1994 33 WAS NFL 16 16 150 74 1397 18.88 6 87.3 49.3% 9.31 18 Henry Ellard 1995 34 WAS NFL 15 15 113 56 1005 17.95 5 67.0 49.6% 8.89 19 Bobby Engram 2007 34 SEA NFL 16 13 134 94 1147 12.20 6 71.7 70.1% 8.56 20 Larry Fitzgerald 2017 34 ARI NFL 12 12 116 82 878 10.71 5 73.2 70.7% 7.57 21 Larry Fitzgerald 2016 33 ARI NFL 16 16 150 107 1023 9.56 6 63.9 71.3% 6.82 22 Malcom Floyd 2014 33 SDG NFL 16 16 92 52 856 16.46 6 53.5 56.5% 9.30 23 Irving Fryar 1997 35 PHI NFL 16 16 153 86 1316 15.30 6 82.3 56.2% 8.60 24 Irving Fryar 1995 33 MIA NFL 16 16 109 62 910 14.68 8 56.9 56.9% 8.35 25 Irving Fryar 1996 34 PHI NFL 16 16 152 88 1195 13.58 11 74.7 57.9% 7.86 26 Joey Galloway 2007 36 TAM NFL 15 15 98 57 1014 17.79 6 67.6 58.2% 10.35 27 Joey Galloway 2005 34 TAM NFL 16 16 152 83 1287 15.51 10 80.4 54.6% 8.47 28 Joey Galloway 2006 35 TAM NFL 16 14 143 62 1057 17.05 7 66.1 43.4% 7.39 29 Antonio Gates 2014 34 SDG NFL 16 14 98 69 821 11.90 12 51.3 70.4% 8.38 30 Antonio Gates 2013 33 SDG NFL 16 15 114 77 872 11.32 4 54.5 67.5% 7.65 31 Tony Gonzalez 2013 37 ATL NFL 16 16 121 83 859 10.35 8 53.7 68.6% 7.10 32 Tony Gonzalez 2011 35 ATL NFL 16 16 116 80 875 10.94 7 54.7 69.0% 7.54 33 Tony Gonzalez 2012 36 ATL NFL 16 16 124 93 930 10.00 8 58.1 75.0% 7.50 34 Tony Gonzalez 2009 33 ATL NFL 16 16 134 83 867 10.45 6 54.2 61.9% 6.47 35 Marvin Harrison* 2005 33 IND NFL 15 15 134 82 1146 13.98 12 76.4 61.2% 8.55 36 Marvin Harrison* 2006 34 IND NFL 16 16 148 95 1366 14.38 12 85.4 64.2% 9.23 37 Andre Johnson 2014 33 HOU NFL 15 15 146 85 936 11.01 3 62.4 58.2% 6.41 38 Keyshawn Johnson 2006 34 CAR NFL 16 16 128 70 815 11.64 4 50.9 54.7% 6.37 39 Keyshawn Johnson 2005 33 DAL NFL 16 14 123 71 839 11.82 6 52.4 57.7% 6.82 40 Eddie Kennison 2006 33 KAN NFL 16 16 101 53 860 16.23 5 53.8 52.5% 8.51 41 Tony Martin 1998 33 ATL NFL 16 16 131 66 1181 17.89 6 73.8 50.4% 9.02 42 Tony Martin 1999 34 MIA NFL 16 13 117 67 1037 15.48 5 64.8 57.3% 8.86 43 Derrick Mason 2010 36 BAL NFL 16 15 100 61 802 13.15 7 50.1 61.0% 8.02 44 Derrick Mason 2008 34 BAL NFL 16 16 121 80 1037 12.96 5 64.8 66.1% 8.57 45 Derrick Mason 2009 35 BAL NFL 16 16 134 73 1028 14.08 7 64.3 54.5% 7.67 46 Derrick Mason 2007 33 BAL NFL 16 16 164 103 1087 10.55 5 67.9 62.8% 6.63 47 Ed McCaffrey 2002 34 DEN NFL 16 16 103 69 903 13.09 2 56.4 67.0% 8.77 48 Keenan McCardell 2003 33 TAM NFL 16 16 139 84 1174 13.98 8 73.4 60.4% 8.45 49 Keenan McCardell 2005 35 SDG NFL 16 16 108 70 917 13.10 9 57.3 64.8% 8.49 50 Muhsin Muhammad 2006 33 CHI NFL 16 16 117 60 863 14.38 5 53.9 51.3% 7.38 51 Muhsin Muhammad 2008 35 CAR NFL 16 15 107 65 923 14.20 5 57.7 60.7% 8.63 52 Terrell Owens 2009 36 BUF NFL 16 16 109 55 829 15.07 5 51.8 50.5% 7.61 53 Terrell Owens 2007 34 DAL NFL 15 15 141 81 1355 16.73 15 90.3 57.4% 9.61 54 Terrell Owens 2010 37 CIN NFL 14 11 139 72 983 13.65 9 70.2 51.8% 7.07 55 Terrell Owens 2008 35 DAL NFL 16 16 140 69 1052 15.25 10 65.8 49.3% 7.51 56 Terrell Owens 2006 33 DAL NFL 16 15 150 85 1180 13.88 13 73.8 56.7% 7.87 57 Andre Reed* 1997 33 BUF NFL 15 15 114 60 880 14.67 5 58.7 52.6% 7.72 58 Jerry Rice* 2002 40 OAK NFL 16 16 150 92 1211 13.16 7 75.7 61.3% 8.07 59 Jerry Rice* 2000 38 SFO NFL 16 16 122 75 805 10.73 7 50.3 61.5% 6.60 60 Jerry Rice* 1998 36 SFO NFL 16 16 151 82 1157 14.11 9 72.3 54.3% 7.66 61 Jerry Rice* 2003 41 OAK NFL 16 15 124 63 869 13.79 2 54.3 50.8% 7.01 62 Jerry Rice* 2001 39 OAK NFL 16 15 125 83 1139 13.72 9 71.2 66.4% 9.11 63 Jerry Rice* 1999 37 SFO NFL 16 16 124 67 830 12.39 5 51.9 54.0% 6.69 64 Jerry Rice* 1996 34 SFO NFL 16 16 153 108 1254 11.61 8 78.4 70.6% 8.20 65 Shannon Sharpe* 2001 33 BAL NFL 16 15 114 73 811 11.11 2 50.7 64.0% 7.11 66 Jimmy Smith 2004 35 JAX NFL 16 16 137 74 1172 15.84 6 73.3 54.0% 8.55 67 Jimmy Smith 2002 33 JAX NFL 16 16 137 80 1027 12.84 7 64.2 58.4% 7.50 68 Jimmy Smith 2005 36 JAX NFL 16 16 128 70 1023 14.61 6 63.9 54.7% 7.99 69 Jimmy Smith 2003 34 JAX NFL 12 12 112 54 805 14.91 4 67.1 48.2% 7.19 70 Rod Smith 2005 35 DEN NFL 16 16 126 85 1105 13.00 6 69.1 67.5% 8.77 71 Rod Smith 2003 33 DEN NFL 15 15 114 74 845 11.42 3 56.3 64.9% 7.41 72 Rod Smith 2004 34 DEN NFL 16 16 136 79 1144 14.48 7 71.5 58.1% 8.41 73 Steve Smith 2012 33 CAR NFL 16 16 137 73 1174 16.08 4 73.4 53.3% 8.57 74 Steve Smith 2014 35 BAL NFL 16 16 134 79 1065 13.48 6 66.6 59.0% 7.95 75 Wesley Walls 1999 33 CAR NFL 16 16 108 63 822 13.05 12 51.4 58.3% 7.61 76 Hines Ward 2009 33 PIT NFL 16 16 137 95 1167 12.28 6 72.9 69.3% 8.52 77 Ben Watson 2015 35 NOR NFL 16 16 110 74 825 11.15 6 51.6 67.3% 7.50 78 Reggie Wayne 2012 34 IND NFL 16 15 195 106 1355 12.78 5 84.7 54.4% 6.95 79 Reggie Wayne 2011 33 IND NFL 16 16 132 75 960 12.80 4 60.0 56.8% 7.27 80 Roddy White 2014 33 ATL NFL 14 14 125 80 921 11.51 7 65.8 64.0% 7.37
Generated 12/7/2017.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
It's all about the cost to keep them. Both of them have been exposed as being nothing special without Aaron Rodgers. I don't think we would be distinctly worse off with somebody else replacing them. Ideally, we get one or more WRs who are capable of getting separation from DBs regularly, but there aren't that many of them around.
This reminds me of the Packers DB situation - we have a lot of guys who would be adequate #2 Corners, but no star shut down guy. Similarly, Nelson, Cobb, Adams, and the rest all are adequate but not star quality and not worth breaking the bank to keep.
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Jerry Rice* 2002 40 OAK NFL 16 16 150 92 1211 13.16 7 75.7 61.3% 8.07
Fucking A
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
I don't think they'll cut either of them because last year if the next year of both of their deals. I don't see Cobb being extended again unless it's for dramatically less money. I could see Nelson redoing his deal and adding a year to it, so 2018 and 2019 at 3-5M per year so he can retire a Packer.
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one thing about cutting then is , why do we need too?
sure the guys are under performing greatly, but as it stands right now, without cutting anyone or re signing anyone, we're looking at somewhere between 30-40 million in free cap space
morgan burnett, davonte and linsley are the only big free agents. they aren't gonna take up 30 million. if we give a-rod another 5 million a year we might take up 20 million against next years cap.
and after the mess with FA this year, i doubt TT will jump back in with both feet. so that still leaves us with a lot of cap space
we really don't need to cut anyone, no matter how shitty they are
Ah yes, a very sad sad commentary on the current state of the Green Bay packers...
Let us not be downhearted. One total catastrophe like this is just the beginning!
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
The thing we never here about as fans is when the team asks players to take a pay cut or be released and the player chooses the pay cut. No agent is going to brag about the great deal they got their client.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the Packers “restructure” Clay because the cap hit is gone after this year. He is underperforming his contract.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
It took only one Poster (ThunderDan) to elect to disrespect himself; by carrying around such an immature uncool example of his obvious 'bad manners'as this':
" A billion monkeys on a billion keyboards will eventually write a Shakespearean play.Twenty monkeys in twenty minutes could probably manage a Woodbuck post." Quote Originally Posted by swede
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seems sarcasticIt took only one Poster (ThunderDan) to elect to disrespect himself; by carrying around such an immature uncool example of his obvious 'bad manners'
" A billion monkeys on a billion keyboards will eventually write a Shakespearean play.Twenty monkeys in twenty minutes could probably manage a Woodbuck post." Quote Originally Posted by swede
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Just think if the Packers cut either Cobb or Nelson and the player they replace them with does well but not great. A certain group of posters will complain that TT will not surround ARod with the talent he needs.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
no way that happens here
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Sure it does, I’ve even seen it as someone’s signature on this website to remind us.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
Put me on 'the List'.
I am a Packer fan that expects what I expect of myself.
Perfection or close to perfection as a Competitor. I don't compete to lose but rather win.
I want a real Super Bowl competitive Packer Team not a wanna be.
TT has not demonstrated that he's the GM that will help Aaron Rodgers win that second Super Bowl Ring.
His so deemed 'Draft and Develop Program' is overall 'a Fail' in my view. For all of the Rah Rah and TT's prowess as a Draft Expert:
I don't see it that way.
I'll shout to the Heavens when TT and MM and Dom Capers are all gone.
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lol, thats a great line though
Still no answer to question "Why are WRs so young in 2018?" There have been many past greats mentioned, but it looks like there's been a change. Is it the salary cap? The way WRs are used? You might expect WRs to last longer with the Chuck Cecils gone. Or maybe just a statistical quirk of this year. Jordy is an outlier now.
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