Originally Posted by 3irty1
Star Wars has never had the sci:fi ratio that fans would prefer which seems especially egregious in a market place with things like Westworld and Black Mirror. But fans are already fans so fuck em. There is a money tree to shake and the new films are very much about growing rather than deepening the brand. Or at least it seems that way with the coalition of women and minorities vs the evil white guys. Modern audiences lack the imagination to connect with characters that do not share an identity.
That said, there are things I liked. I actually enjoyed what they did with Rey's parents. There was no satisfying or believable way to resolve that even though its clearly what we're supposed to talk about after Force Awakens. Her confusing mirror cave scene seemed to me just a newfangled version of Luke's experience in the Dagobah cave. I enjoyed Force Awakens, but a lot of folks thought it was too cheap a knock off of A New Hope. Those same people seemed to like this one but I don't see how its any less of a ripoff of Empire Strikes Back. It starts and ends with the Rebellion running for its life. Hoth, Cloud City, and Dagobah all have their analogs and much of those scenes seemed to serve no purpose but to harken back to glory days. I fully expected the codebreaker they were seeking on the casino cloud city to be Lando. They really wasted an opportunity to kill off Leia.
What the series lacks is a great villain which was the true strength of the old films. Even the prequels got to ride a little bit of Vader's star in this sense. Despite the supersaturation of comic relief and cheesy dialog those movies had, the villains were still good: Palpatine, corrupt government, and the Vader origin story. Kylo Ren just isn't scary and with Poe Dameron cracking wise at him in ways nobody would have ever talked to Vader in the first scene of Awakens, this was clearly never the plan. I think a decent villain can still be salvaged actually with Snoke. As Zool mentioned he's thin, suspiciously thin. My theory is that he's Palpatine's old master referred to as Darth Plagueis in the prequels. His shtick if you remember was that he figured out how to stop people from dying with the force which was part of Palpatine's sales pitch to Anakin. According to Palpatine, he murdered Plagueis in his sleep and it was ironic that he couldn't save his own life with that ability. Well maybe he could. Maybe that's how he got the gnarly scar on his face. Maybe he'll glue himself back together for the next film too. At this point the Force has powercreeped so much it can explain away just about anything. Hell now that Force projection is a thing maybe Snoke wasn't even in the room.
My only other prediction is that Rey will be revealed somehow, maybe with something in the Jedi books, to be the true "chosen one" the Jedi prophesied Anakin to be. He was similarly polymathic as a mechanic, pilot, and Jedi who came from "nothing." Something is needed to explain why she's so effortlessly competent.
I think the next one can fill in the holes of this new trilogy but I'm more looking forward to the standalone spinoff movies.
your attempt to make sense of this piece of shit movie is far more interesting than the movie.
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