DOUGHERTY....."HOW COULD THE PACKERS LET HYDE AND HAYWARD GET AWAY "

[Bretsky]

A reasonable point. If TT signs Hayward in 2016, and stays put in the first round last year, that pick could have become T.J. Watt. Obviously, at this point, the Packers need a young pass rusher with his arrow pointing up. No disrespect to Biegel, who could be something, or Fackrell, who may have a higher ceiling, but so far has had modest returns, T.J. Watt was lined up to be the obvious choice, had Green Bay either signed Hayward the year before or signed a free agent CB last off-season and not had to wait out the development cycle of King, who got hurt anyway, which unfortunately seems to be a Packer thing.

[woodbuck27]

I'll say this for Packerrats. Members here do an absolutely tremendous job of defending every move that Packer GM Ted Thompson makes or doesn't make. At Packerrats Ted Thompson is Packer Nation GOD.

For myself and seeing it all; I just get to this:

[Bossman641]

I'll say this for Packerrats. Members here do an absolutely tremendous job of defending every move that Packer GM Ted Thompson makes or doesn't make. At Packerrats Ted Thompson is Packer Nation GOD.

TT has messed up plenty but this article is a stretch. Hindsight is always 20/20.

[Bretsky]

TT has messed up plenty but this article is a stretch. Hindsight is always 20/20.

agree with you....especially on Hyde...but with that being said, I'd tend to agree with Woody's point

[pbmax]

We have to be realistic about Hayward's level here. I expect Pro Bowl votes, but is he going to be an All Pro? Even 2nd team? I don't think so, but I've been wrong before.

So I don''t think he proved to be all world, but he did prove his rookie year was no fluke and he was probably better than House for Packers comparison.

But at the time, he wasn't going to be #1 with Shields on the team and he might not have been #2 with questions about being able to handle full time duties on the outside (that could very much be a coaching/scheme decision). So he's a#3 CB (possibly #2) at $5 mil per season with 2 young players. He wasn't let go because no one saw his talent, he was let go because he was no sure thing at that price.

It paid off handsomely for the Chargers and their scheme. Its not always going to work out for the Packers.

But this is another good example of Ted and Dom not being able to find common ground on talent.