WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH MIKE MCCARTHY ???

[QBME]

The new GM will have enough to do without going through a head coach search and hire. Keep MM. If after a year, the GM and coach are a bad fit, then make a change. Seems that happened once before here and it worked fairly well.

This. It will work out offensively as Aaron Rodgers just became the de facto Offensive Coordinator. MM is now the Assistant OC to handle the details.

[call_me_ishmael]

He probably already agreed to or possibly even signed an extension ala Sherman, or he isn't coaching the Packers in 2018.

[Fosco33]

I think it'll be Wolf and McCarthy stays.

[Zool]

I voted option 3 because I have no say in the matter

[wist43]

Stubby stays - cuz I said so

[3irty1]

The only way I'd toss MM is if the Packers fall in love with a D-coordinator candidate and it takes an HC spot to land him.

MM is a pretty excellent coach but all things being equal a true guru on the defensive side of the ball is more valuable than the equivalent on offense. Not just for us but in general.

[pbmax]

No one ever remembers the last five, strike that, seven years of Gruden's coaching face in Tampa.

You could look it up: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/GrudJo0.htm

No one accepts mediocrity like Jon Gruden.

[Bossman641]

No one ever remembers the last five, strike that, seven years of Gruden's coaching face in Tampa.

You could look it up: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/GrudJo0.htm

No one accepts mediocrity like Jon Gruden.

pbmax, I would like a word with you...

[pbmax]

pbmax, I would like a word with you...

Fair point. He is the King of 500.

[Rutnstrut]

No one ever remembers the last five, strike that, seven years of Gruden's coaching face in Tampa.

You could look it up: https://www.pro-football-reference.c...es/GrudJo0.htm

No one accepts mediocrity like Jon Gruden.

Yup, I don't get the love for Gruden as a coach. He took a team that was almost there, got them to the big show and then sucked afterwords.

[pbmax]

Yup, I don't get the love for Gruden as a coach. He took a team that was almost there, got them to the big show and then sucked afterwords.

Another guy who rode good coaching success to a dual GM/final authority role with no evidence he is qualified to do both. His talent at being a face (in wrestling parlance, a good guy whom all believe) eclipses his talent at coaching.

In some ways he is less accomplished than Schottenheimer with a better public rep. Its baffling.

[Pugger]

Yup, I don't get the love for Gruden as a coach. He took a team that was almost there, got them to the big show and then sucked afterwords.

Yes, the Raiders can have him.

[call_me_ishmael]

I wonder what Aaron thinks of all of this change.

[mmmdk]

Stubby still sucks I voted to let the new Packers GM decide. Stubby is an ok coach, he started hot and looked good in the first half of his tenure in GB but he's burned out as a HC and he has had the good fortune of Favre plus Rodgers. McCarthy could be a great offensive coordinator when he leaves Green Bay - he could revive himself by taking lesser responsibilities somewhere else. Stubby might survive a new GM in GB but I'd say it's 80-90% sure he'll be fired after a mere year. Much like Mike II. But I also would give him 10-20% chance of succeeding with a lot of help....A LOT! A new red hot drafting GM having a Saints like draft in april, a bunch of key free agents that are home runs and lastly a new defensive staff that retools the defense...then Stubby could stay longer. That's a lot of 'ifs'.

[gbgary]

turns out he was given a one extension in the middle of this season.

[mmmdk]

turns out he was given a one extension in the middle of this season.

Stubby?

[pbmax]

turns out he was given a one extension in the middle of this season.

So two years left on deal. 2018 and 19.

[pbmax]

This deal, according to Demovsky, was done in the middle of the season. So Thompson and McCarthy's prospects may have diverged at that point.

McGinn made it sound like Thompson and McCarthy being linked was a possible liability. Doesn't seem like anyone was out for McCarthy at this point.

[call_me_ishmael]

Makes sense. It's the same thing they did for Sherman. You don't want a checked out, lame duck coach. I still think all of these changes will really hurt with attracting a great DC for next season.

[pbmax]

Makes sense. It's the same thing they did for Sherman. You don't want a checked out, lame duck coach. I still think all of these changes will really hurt with attracting a great DC for next season.

Except this was done before Thompson was kicked upstairs.