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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkey View Post
    Sportradar rates Packers receivers as NFL's slowest

    http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...st/1007206001/

    No QB can throw a tortoise open......
    I saw James Jones do it over and over again just a few years ago.
    But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I saw James Jones do it over and over again just a few years ago.
    Exactly. We don't need speed demons. We have one already in Janis who is now stuck on ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    Exactly. We don't need speed demons. We have one already in Janis who is now stuck on ST.
    It does help to have a deep threat though. During much of James Jones' career, he was halped by the fact that the Packers had Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson, guys who had deep speed that defenses had to respect. The Packers need to get back to drafting one of those types of guys. It would Adams even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    It does help to have a deep threat though. During much of James Jones' career, he was halped by the fact that the Packers had Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson, guys who had deep speed that defenses had to respect. The Packers need to get back to drafting one of those types of guys. It would Adams even better.
    It also helped to have James Jones, who despite pedestrian speed somehow got an angle on DBs. Once he learned to catch over the shoulder he was a nightmare to cover deep.

    Mostly I think his advantage was size and the willingness to run some inside routes. DBs had to honor his feints inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    It also helped to have James Jones, who despite pedestrian speed somehow got an angle on DBs. Once he learned to catch over the shoulder he was a nightmare to cover deep.

    Mostly I think his advantage was size and the willingness to run some inside routes. DBs had to honor his feints inside.
    James Jones was a press coverage escape artist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    James Jones was a press coverage escape artist.
    Its the paradox of no speed. If a tiny DB bumps you and you are already slow, does it actually have a measurable effect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Its the paradox of no speed. If a tiny DB bumps you and you are already slow, does it actually have a measurable effect?
    Most definitely: the tiny DB goes backwards. As you alluded to in your earlier comment, a good deep threat doesn't necessarily need blazing speed. Knowing how to use positioning and hands, and being able to do something after catching the ball, are just as important. What made Jones especially tough is that he was hard to bring down and had some quickness, so those 30 yard back shoulder throws had a way of turning into 65-yd TDs.

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