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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Uh, some of us were. I, for one, have repeatedly complained about how our O Line always made it necessary for Rodgers to scramble and throw on the run. I also mentioned a few times that our WRs were basically overrated because they had the best QB in the history of the world throwing to them.

    And about the FAs Ted went out and got, yeah, quantity-wise, he picked up a few more than usual, but literally all of those were rejects that virtually nobody else wanted including the teams they came from - same ol' same ol'.
    Doesn't Rodgers need to scramble and throw on the run because he is waiting for the secondary offense to get someone open?

    He has to be near the top of holding onto the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Doesn't Rodgers need to scramble and throw on the run because he is waiting for the secondary offense to get someone open?

    He has to be near the top of holding onto the ball.
    That's the story some like to pass off as a defense of the O Line hahahahaha. Maybe he has to wait for the "secondary offense" to get open because receivers don't do a very good job of getting open as the play is called - which I guess would be the "primary offense".

    Any way you look at it, supporting personnel has gotten more and more mediocre doing things Ted's way. Hopefully that will get turned around on both O and D with Gutekunst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Doesn't Rodgers need to scramble and throw on the run because he is waiting for the secondary offense to get someone open?

    He has to be near the top of holding onto the ball.
    I'm hoping our new WR coach will actually teach our WRs other than Adams how to get open quicker so Aaron doesn't have to hold onto the ball forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    If Hundley plays at a Flynn level, TT and MM are geniuses and a Hundley should be traded for a 2nd and a 3rd before the draft. Unfortunately, when the lights came on, college Hundley showed back up and now TT and MM are morons.

    Is it possible that it’s somewhere in the middle? That maybe they’ve both been employed In the NFL for a couple decades because they are actually pretty good at their jobs? Maybe, just maybe, they overestimated Hundley. Then again, so did most in here. Not by watching practice every day. Or pouring over tape. Or coaching the kid. Nope we read press releases and thought they should have traded him on draft night for a couple picks because he’s going to be good.

    If you think you know more than guys who have been in the NFL for a couple decades, should you not also be employed by the NFL? Is it the money that’s holding you back? Are you taking time away from the field to spend it with your family? Maybe you’re just too smart for these bozos?
    No. They are morons. Winning = genius. Losing = morons. Why mess that up with nuance and subtlety?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    No. They are morons. Winning = genius. Losing = morons. Why mess that up with nuance and subtlety?
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    Career low YPC for Cobb and Nelson this season. Adams dropped a yard and a half per catch. Everything was a bubble screen, or a 5 yard out. It was low level college O. He was a bad QB this year no matter the metric you pick. Maybe he’ll get better, maybe he won’t. All I know is what I saw on the field.
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    I was disappointed by Hundley this year. Is that an understatement? I had higher hopes and higher wants as trade value. However I still believe Cobb and Nelson can be useful with Aaron on the field. That doesn't mean I wouldn't draft more WR talent if available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BZnDallas View Post
    I was disappointed by Hundley this year. Is that an understatement? I had higher hopes and higher wants as trade value. However I still believe Cobb and Nelson can be useful with Aaron on the field. That doesn't mean I wouldn't draft more WR talent if available.
    We do need more speed at this position and you can find that in later rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    We do need more speed at this position and you can find that in later rounds.
    Sportradar rates Packers receivers as NFL's slowest

    http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...st/1007206001/

    No QB can throw a tortoise open......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkey View Post
    Sportradar rates Packers receivers as NFL's slowest

    http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...st/1007206001/

    No QB can throw a tortoise open......
    I saw James Jones do it over and over again just a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderDan View Post
    I saw James Jones do it over and over again just a few years ago.
    Exactly. We don't need speed demons. We have one already in Janis who is now stuck on ST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkey View Post
    Sportradar rates Packers receivers as NFL's slowest

    http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...st/1007206001/

    No QB can throw a tortoise open......
    If we look at every pass play in the N.F.L. this season through Week 16, and then average the top speed of each receiver across all of those plays, the Rams have the fastest group with an average of 13.32 m.p.h. The Raiders, at 11.96, are slower than every other team except for the Packers, who are more than a mile and a half per hour slower than the Rams at 11.74 m.p.h.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    If we look at every pass play in the N.F.L. this season through Week 16, and then average the top speed of each receiver across all of those plays, the Rams have the fastest group with an average of 13.32 m.p.h. The Raiders, at 11.96, are slower than every other team except for the Packers, who are more than a mile and a half per hour slower than the Rams at 11.74 m.p.h.
    How much of that is scramble drill? It takes more time to run a stop and start or sit in a zone than it does to cover the same distance in a straight line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparkey View Post
    Sportradar rates Packers receivers as NFL's slowest

    http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...st/1007206001/

    No QB can throw a tortoise open......
    Its hard to ignore the speed demons at WR that teams brought to the playoffs this year. Pittsburgh and New Orleans are especially loaded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3irty1 View Post
    Its hard to ignore the speed demons at WR that teams brought to the playoffs this year. Pittsburgh and New Orleans are especially loaded.
    That equation has hit a hard limit though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pugger View Post
    We do need more speed at this position and you can find that in later rounds.
    Maybe things will be different with Gute, but TT had no real success drafting WR's after the 3rd round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Maybe things will be different with Gute, but TT had no real success drafting WR's after the 3rd round.
    Boy ain't that the truth. He made some hay in round 2 though.
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    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    You’ll be hard pressed to find guys faster than Davis and Janis. Just need one (or 3) of them to actually be a WR and not just a ST player.
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    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zool View Post
    You’ll be hard pressed to find guys faster than Davis and Janis. Just need one (or 3) of them to actually be a WR and not just a ST player.
    Excellent Point! We will have a new WR coach now; Hopefully somebody can persuade McCarthy to actually play those two plus Clark and Yancy. If it's really true that those young guys weren't ready to get on the field - something I very much doubt, then it means negligent coaching them up, not stupidity on the part of the players.

    I've been pushing for Janis for a LONG time. He's done damn good almost every chance he has been given - GIVE HIM MORE CHANCES!
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Excellent Point! We will have a new WR coach now; Hopefully somebody can persuade McCarthy to actually play those two plus Clark and Yancy. If it's really true that those young guys weren't ready to get on the field - something I very much doubt, then it means negligent coaching them up, not stupidity on the part of the players.

    I've been pushing for Janis for a LONG time. He's done damn good almost every chance he has been given - GIVE HIM MORE CHANCES!
    Did you see him run the wrong route versus Minnesota and nearly collide with the WR screen that was supposed to be run?
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