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    It would have been nice for M3 to have this sense of urgency prior to 2018.

    “I know what I’m in control of. I’m in control of making sure we’re doing everything we can, everything we can to win a championship. That’s what this process is.”
    Frankly this kinda reeks of panic now that the revolution is going outside. I am not impressed with his throwing other people under the bus in this manner.

    I kinda wished they had started over. If they were going to dump Ted, dump the coach too and put the new GM in charge of fixing on the fly.

    I have been through this before. Half measures don't normally work. Half measure get you Bud Carson, Mike Sherman as GM and Buddy Nix. I don't think it was broken (except to decide between Dom and Ted's approach) but sacking the two of them means the third should have gone too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    It would have been nice for M3 to have this sense of urgency prior to 2018.



    Frankly this kinda reeks of panic now that the revolution is going outside. I am not impressed with his throwing other people under the bus in this manner.

    I kinda wished they had started over. If they were going to dump Ted, dump the coach too and put the new GM in charge of fixing on the fly.

    I have been through this before. Half measures don't normally work. Half measure get you Bud Carson, Mike Sherman as GM and Buddy Nix. I don't think it was broken (except to decide between Dom and Ted's approach) but sacking the two of them means the third should have gone too.
    I am not convinced that this is all desperation mode. Before Rodgers went down the Packers looked to be as good as any team in the NFC. Under Hundley the offense suddenly became inept and the defense proved unable to bottle and reproduce its early brilliant performance against Seattle. But if you could replay the season and avoid the key injuries, I would wager that the 2017 Packers would be as good if not better than the 2016 version.

    Moving forward, the departure of Capers is related to the defense's underperformance over the past two years, but it is far less clear what prompted the reassignment of TT. Was it because his efforts to restock talent have failed? Or was it because health and/or age were preventing him from carrying out all of his duties? I am not convinced that we are seeing a revolution here. And McCarthy's continued presence is evidence that the surrounding pieces may be moving for various reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoosier View Post
    I am not convinced that this is all desperation mode. Before Rodgers went down the Packers looked to be as good as any team in the NFC. Under Hundley the offense suddenly became inept and the defense proved unable to bottle and reproduce its early brilliant performance against Seattle. But if you could replay the season and avoid the key injuries, I would wager that the 2017 Packers would be as good if not better than the 2016 version.

    Moving forward, the departure of Capers is related to the defense's underperformance over the past two years, but it is far less clear what prompted the reassignment of TT. Was it because his efforts to restock talent have failed? Or was it because health and/or age were preventing him from carrying out all of his duties? I am not convinced that we are seeing a revolution here. And McCarthy's continued presence is evidence that the surrounding pieces may be moving for various reasons.
    I don't think the moves on offense are desperation. But I cannot shake the feeling that Capers would be here if they made the playoffs again. And the same dynamic would be in place unless the new GM wants to stock defense with vets.

    And since that is backwards from how good franchises work, I think the wholesale changes on D are a bit of desperation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    I don't think the moves on offense are desperation. But I cannot shake the feeling that Capers would be here if they made the playoffs again. And the same dynamic would be in place unless the new GM wants to stock defense with vets.

    And since that is backwards from how good franchises work, I think the wholesale changes on D are a bit of desperation.
    It doesn't look like desperation - more of an admission that the current situation wasn't working. Whomever does in as GM and DC will have to work out the same issues, but it's likely that guys will be hired with that working a requirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    It doesn't look like desperation - more of an admission that the current situation wasn't working. Whomever does in as GM and DC will have to work out the same issues, but it's likely that guys will be hired with that working a requirement.
    The track record here is not encouraging though. It should have been solved a few years ago by the same two guys still working (Murphy and McCarthy).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    The track record here is not encouraging though. It should have been solved a few years ago by the same two guys still working (Murphy and McCarthy).
    I know, it's worrisome. But hopefully Murphy, the next GM and Stubby will be skipping hand in hand in hand with the new DC.

    (Stubby is the one without a brain)
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    It would have been nice for M3 to have this sense of urgency prior to 2018.



    Frankly this kinda reeks of panic now that the revolution is going outside. I am not impressed with his throwing other people under the bus in this manner.

    I kinda wished they had started over. If they were going to dump Ted, dump the coach too and put the new GM in charge of fixing on the fly.

    I have been through this before. Half measures don't normally work. Half measure get you Bud Carson, Mike Sherman as GM and Buddy Nix. I don't think it was broken (except to decide between Dom and Ted's approach) but sacking the two of them means the third should have gone too.
    Your so correct.

    That Mike McCarthy is demonstrating so much moxy is way beyond anything and rational common sense and reality.

    How Mike McCarthy is pulling this off, is like nothing else I've ever seen in my 60 Years as a Pro Sports Fan.

    I keep hoping that someone, with the good sense to know differently; will suddenly do what is necessary to get rid of this incorrigible back stabbing scapegoating imposter.

    That sensable minds will pull the carpet out from under Mike McCarthy's feet and dump him on his fat ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Your so so so correct. That Mike McCarthy is demonstrating so much moxy is way beyond anything and rational common sense and reality.

    How Mike McCarthy is pulling this off is like nothing else I've ever seen in my 60 Years as a Pro Sports Fan.

    I keep hoping that someone with the good sense to know differently; will suddenly do what is necessary to get rid of this incorrigible back stabbing imposter.

    That sensable minds will pull the carpet out from under Mike McCarthy's feet and dump him on his fat ass.
    Pulling off what, pray tell?

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