Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty
One big piece of news in Packers' official announcement of Brian Gutekunst promotion to GM: He, Russ Ball & coach Mike McCarthy will all report directly to Mark Murphy. In previous setup going back to late 1991, only the GM reported to team president.
Its been a good run.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Brian Gutekunst is GM
Russ Ball is now Director of Football Operations
Mike McCarthy is now reporting directly to Mark Murphy
Eliot Wolf has had his title taken by Ball. No word in press release about him.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Originally Posted by pbmax
Wolf was probably on a plane to Cleveland within a few hours of finding out about Gooter
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Wolf has an interview with Cleveland tomorrow.
TTs old role was listed thusly on Packers.com:
Ted Thompson, Executive Vice President, General Manager & Director of Football Operations
Ball got the EVP piece, Gute got the GM piece, and Wolf was already also listed as Director of FO so I'm confused why he and TT both had that piece previously (??). Either way yeah, Wolf is likely gone. Too bad as he is the stronger Pro Personnel guy, would have made a nice Asst. GM to Gute's college experience. If he leaves do we bring in Scot McCloughan? Gute mentioned him specifically in his presser as his biggest mentor early in his scouting career. He brings baggage with the booze so may not pass the Packer People litmus test (eye roll) but I'd be all for it personally.
Plus Wolf's role in Pro Personnel will only become more important under a new regime that plans to more actively leverage this thing called. I think, free agency.
Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers have officially named Brian Gutekunst their new GM. Russ Ball was promoted to vice president/director of football operations. No mention of Eliot Wolf one way or another in the press release. His future will have to be decided by Murphy/Gutekunst/Ball in the near future.
Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
In a departure from previous practice, #Packers will have Gutekunst, McCarthy and Ball all report to president Mark Murphy. It means Gutekunst has control over the roster but not head coach. There are 7 or 8 teams who do it that way.
“The process of identifying our next general manager gave us the opportunity to analyze our entire football operation,” said Murphy. “While we have enjoyed a lot of success, we need to improve.” Cont...
cont... “While I understand this is a departure from the Packers’ current structure, it will serve to increase the breadth and frequency of communication and collaboration. Ultimately, it will make the Packers better.”
This means Gutekunst can recommend a coaching change to Murphy but he can’t execute it without Murphy’s approval. Same thing with Ball, who has been promoted to Executive VP of football operations.
Hinted at in this move by Murphy is that “communication and collaboration” was waning under Thompson, who oversaw everything on the football side. Now Murphy oversees it all. He obviously didn’t like everything he saw in the football operation, especially sides working together.
HE NEEDED TO FIRE MORE PEOPLE. INSTEAD, HE PROMOTED THEM ALL.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Ugh. The beauty of the Packers lacking a traditional owner is the compartmentalization of football decisions with football people.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
I think it's more an issue now of how power is distributed as well as accountability. Murphy must have gotten some heat from the executive committee, which can fire him. He's now placed himself more directly in the loop. The next guy to be fired if things don't go so well will be Murphy.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Yeah, but in trying to solve whatever communication/coordination problem he had, he now has three separate lines of authority that do not terminate until the top.
Murphy is now, effectively, the GM when decisions cannot be agreed to. Probably affects the draft less than FAs and contracts.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Does Gute need Murphy's approval to sign big ticket FA? Does he have key to executive washroom, or do they have to use both keys at the same time?
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Oh bloody hell
All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
Well, Murphy will be in the public firing line, that's for sure.
Packer fans have bought the GM must be in charge as the solution to 20 years in the wilderness. I kinda like it myself even if I wasn't here to suffer through it.
None of these guys is worth it from what we know.
Last edited by pbmax; 01-08-2018 at 11:05 AM.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Whattttt? Doesn't this go against exactly what Murphy was saying in his press conference? I do not understand this decision at all.
I think it's clear Russ Ball is the next Murphy, not GM. Just make him EVP of something-something Packers cap table.
Why not give Gutekunst the autonomy he needs and have MM report to him as it always has been?
Dumb.
It certainly appears that the GM now needs the formal sign-off of the CEO to fire the coach. Which is not what he said last week.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Do any teams run their front office like the new Packers structure?
Silverstein said 7 or 8 do. The only one I can think of is Cleveland. There may be others that are more successful.
Seattle comes to mind now. Schneider has control of the 90 man roster, Carrol the 53. And I bet John can't fire Pete without Paul Allen saying OK.
But it usually foments lines being drawn and blame being shifted as people concentrate on what others are or are not doing.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Murphy said in the PC that 13 teams have the coach reporting directly to the owner. Including, he said, 7 of the playoff teams. He was quick to point out that he is not an owner.
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora
In new GB model. Mark Murphy - team pres - wields great control. He and Ball will control flow of $. He who controls $ rules the team ...
Well it seems like a coup of non football people at this point. Short of hiring Bob Sanders as HC, I could not be more disappointed.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I read this as an indictment of TT's management style. They expected TT to properly manage the draft, MM's coaching, and FA acquisition. They probably wanted TT to operate differently, and he refused. Now, if you don't want to be a team player, you can be shown the door. No proof of this, just a theory.
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