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    for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

    with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

    with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB
    There is something to be said for having a backup QB who has played before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    There is something to be said for having a backup QB who has played before.
    And the Eagles defense. That's the dumb part of this "Backup X" has been successful discussion. The Vikings are also playing a journeyman backup but they have a top 3 defense. Blake Bortles has a lot of QB Winz this year too but I'm not ready to say he's a successful QB.

    Foles has started a few seasons' worth of games and he did enough to not lose. That's usually what it takes on a team that does not have to worry about the defense's inability to get off of the fiel.d

    The recent Packers have relied on their offense to win games. That's not an ideal scenario for any journeyman to step into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

    with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB
    Having one of the best defenses in the NFL helps.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    Having one of the best defenses in the NFL helps.
    That's exactly the point. It would be nice to have a TEAM that isn't entirely dependent on 1 player having to perform at an all-world level just to be competitive. One thing the playoffs tell me year after year is that you still need a good to great D to win the Superb Owl. Teams with video game offenses and pathetic D's just don't win it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SMBASS View Post
    That's exactly the point. It would be nice to have a TEAM that isn't entirely dependent on 1 player having to perform at an all-world level just to be competitive. One thing the playoffs tell me year after year is that you still need a good to great D to win the Superb Owl. Teams with video game offenses and pathetic D's just don't win it.
    Well, perhaps now with a new DC and a GM who isn't allergic to FA maybe we can finally field a decent enough defense so AR doesn't have to play out of his freaking mind for us to win.

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    Foles vs Hundley

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    Cmp% 	Yds 	       TD 	TD% 	Int 	Int% 	Lng 	Y/A 	AY/A 	Y/C 	Y/G 	        Rate 	   QBR 	Sk 	Yds 	NY/A 	ANY/A 	  Sk% 	
    56.4	537	        5	5.0	2	2.0	35	5.3	5.4	9.4	76.7	        79.5	  31.4	5	44	4.65	4.75	  4.7
    60.8	1836	        9	2.8	12	3.8	55	5.8	4.7	9.6	166.9	        70.6	  40.5	29	197	4.75	3.71	  8.4
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    Code:
    Player	Cmp% 	 Yds 	 TD	TD% 	Int 	Int% 	Lng 	Y/A 	AY/A 	Y/C 	Y/G 	  	
    Foles	56.4 	 537 	 5	5.0	2	2.0	35	5.3	5.4	9.4	76.7
    Hundley	60.8 	 1836 	 9	2.8	12	3.8	55	5.8	4.7	9.6	166.9
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    Player	Rate 	   QBR 	Sk 	Yds 	NY/A 	ANY/A 	  Sk%
    Foles	79.5	  31.4	5	44	4.65	4.75	  4.7
    Hundley	70.6	  40.5	29	197	4.75	3.71	  8.4
    Double the sack percentage REALLY hurts Hundley.

    I think tex really overplays this point in blaming the Packers O line as one of the worst, but we do need to remember that Rodgers makes them look better than they are.
    Last edited by pbmax; 01-14-2018 at 09:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Double the sack percentage REALLY hurts Hundley.

    I think tex really overplays this point in blaming the Packers O line as one of the worst, but we do need to remember that Rodgers makes them look better than they are.
    It looked like the offense for Foles last night was designed to get the ball out of his hands, mostly RPOs and runs. They mixed in a handful of dropbacks but those were a lot more of an adventure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Code:
    Player	Cmp% 	 Yds 	 TD	TD% 	Int 	Int% 	Lng 	Y/A 	AY/A 	Y/C 	Y/G 	  	
    Foles	56.4 	 537 	 5	5.0	2	2.0	35	5.3	5.4	9.4	76.7
    Hundley	60.8 	 1836 	 9	2.8	12	3.8	55	5.8	4.7	9.6	166.9
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    Player	Rate 	   QBR 	Sk 	Yds 	NY/A 	ANY/A 	  Sk%
    Foles	79.5	  31.4	5	44	4.65	4.75	  4.7
    Hundley	70.6	  40.5	29	197	4.75	3.71	  8.4
    Double the sack percentage REALLY hurts Hundley.

    I think tex really overplays this point in blaming the Packers O line as one of the worst, but we do need to remember that Rodgers makes them look better than they are.
    Hundley's sack percentage was much more a function of Hundley's inability to move to the 2nd 3rd an 4th reads and get the ball out of his hands than it was OL difficulties. Maybe I'm misremembering, but it seemed that his sacks went down the last 4 games after MM changed the offense to quick pass, no think. We were not more successful, but Hundley wasn't bailing to his right as much...until the end of the game and we were playing from behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

    with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB
    How many games did Wentz miss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    How many games did Wentz miss?

    How many games did Sam Bradford miss ?
    LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    How many games did Sam Bradford miss ?
    BURN

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    for all those that said the packers team wasn't bad because any team that lost their star QB would be as bad as we were, the eagles are going to the NFC chanpionship game after losing their QB who was probably going to win the MVP before his injury

    with better players and coaching you CAN withstand an injury to your QB
    But there were 2 teams in that game. The falcons are wasting Matt Ryan. OMG...OMG...EVERY team should be built to win the superbowl every year.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    But there were 2 teams in that game. The falcons are wasting Matt Ryan. OMG...OMG...EVERY team should be built to win the superbowl every year.
    I agree. Atlanta should have won it last year and they were one catch away from winning today. Plus, they have a top ten defense.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
    I agree. Atlanta should have won it last year and they were one catch away from winning today. Plus, they have a top ten defense.
    Philly D players in locker room said they knew what they would run on 4th down. Steve Sarkisian is apparently no Kyle Shanahan.
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