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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Source for previous chart: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

    Remember, Rodgers probably gets a new deal this offseason.
    I'm also going to assume they'll either cut or restructure some big contracts to save money, too (CM3, JN, RC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
    I'm also going to assume they'll either cut or restructure some big contracts to save money, too (CM3, JN, RC).
    That would change the calculus and the needs a bit. I think I could see one WR take a cut (Nelson) but I think the other two are staying.
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    John Dorsey resembles Mike Sherman more than Ted Thompson. Dorsey led the Chiefs into the dreaded cap hell, just like Sherman once did with our beloved Pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    John Dorsey resembles Mike Sherman more than Ted Thompson. Dorsey led the Chiefs into the dreaded cap hell, just like Sherman once did with our beloved Pack.

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    Maybe that is why he ran out of town faster than Joe Mixon after clocking that chick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Maybe that is why he ran out of town faster than Joe Mixon after clocking that chick.
    I think it was because he did not draft a punter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Maybe that is why he ran out of town faster than Joe Mixon after clocking that chick.
    Regardless, Dorsey built the current team in Kansas City, you know, that team that made the playoffs this season. And there's no such thing as cap hell in this day and age of soaring revenues and titanic TV contracts. Sure, it appears like the Chiefs are currently over the cap at this moment in space-time, but all they have to do is get rid of game manager Alex Smith, and they'll be out of cap hell in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Packers back in November filed claim to get back 4 million of Bennett's signing bonus. If they win the claim, does that get added to their cap room? Arbitrator is supposed to make decision before start of league year.
    Would make sense but haven’t read anything on it.

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    Math is a little off Woody. TO played 157 games over that timeframe you posted. So 127 TDs over 157 games is .808 TDs/game. Still a real good stretch by a WR though.

    The comment by Partial is way off. TO is 44 now, he couldn't even sniff the league at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    Math is a little off Woody. TO played 157 games over that timeframe you posted. So 127 TDs over 157 games is .808 TDs/game. Still a real good stretch by a WR though.

    The comment by Partial is way off. TO is 44 now, he couldn't even sniff the league at this point.
    " TO played 157 games over that timeframe you posted. So 127 TDs over 157 games is .808 TDs/game. " Cheesehead Craig

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    Your correct.

    I'll add this here as I was interested in when if ever Terrell Owens would make the HOF based on his previous two years of eligibility and negative results; what happened that he did get the approval vote this year?

    Here's a Story on that:

    https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/2/...-debate-length

    Terrell Owens debate was longest of the day for Hall of Fame voters

    I wonder what changed people’s minds in year three?

    By: David Fucillo@davidfucillo ... Feb 5, 2018, 6:45am PST
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    I wonder what changed people’s minds in year three?
    TO campaigned pretty hard that he was getting different standards applied to him than others. So much was brought up about his antics that were not a measuring stick that was applied to other players. I think he made just enough sense and got other players already in the HOF agreeing with him and stumped for him as well to be in that they convinced enough voters. I also think that the writers like to get in some final dig at the players they didn't like. By keeping them out of the HOF for a year or several years, they get some last bit of pettiness at the player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesehead Craig View Post
    TO campaigned pretty hard that he was getting different standards applied to him than others. So much was brought up about his antics that were not a measuring stick that was applied to other players. I think he made just enough sense and got other players already in the HOF agreeing with him and stumped for him as well to be in that they convinced enough voters. I also think that the writers like to get in some final dig at the players they didn't like. By keeping them out of the HOF for a year or several years, they get some last bit of pettiness at the player.
    Yes I agree and the 'tbe be patient with us as we had to be patient with your impetulant ways in the past' factor and holding TO out until year three of eligibility.

    Then there is the possible Point of bringing in Randy Moss as a First Ballot Candidate and any consideration of holding Moss out based on his off field behaviour.

    I think it came down to this:

    Looking at Terrell Owens and Randy Moss, it became way too obvious that there game production had to place both in the NFL HOF.

    When a NFL player has to be seriously considered and game planned for year after year that player has to be seriously considered for the NFL Hall Fame.
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    That's just silly. You don't think Randy Moss or TO could still get deep? 44 is old, sure, but athletes don't just go from premier to nothing over night. They could easily make a roster, but they both have plenty of money that additional traction on the body isn't worth the salary they'd earn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    That's just silly. You don't think Randy Moss or TO could still get deep? 44 is old, sure, but athletes don't just go from premier to nothing over night. They could easily make a roster, but they both have plenty of money that additional traction on the body isn't worth the salary they'd earn.
    Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.
    Isn't Brady 0-1 in Super Bowls in his 40s? Sounds terrible to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Isn't Brady 0-1 in Super Bowls in his 40s? Sounds terrible to me.
    Yep, he is a leightweight chocker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.
    Here's a couple of examples of NFL Players excelly in the NFL at 40 Years of age.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats

    2017 Season NFL MVP Tom Brady (Born: 8/3/1977)

    Did you forget this Guy?

    Brett Favre: Born: 10/10/1969

    Brett Favre's Stat's 2009 included: 531 Passing attempts and 363 Competitions for a Career BEST 68.4 %

    Favre passed for 4202 Yards that Season for a Career BEST 7.9 Yard Average.

    He averaged 262.6 Yards/Game or the 3rd Best in his 20 Year NFL Career.

    Favre had 33 TD's or Tied for 4th Best in his Career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Here's a couple of examples of NFL Players excelly in the NFL at 40 Years of age.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats

    2017 Season NFL MVP Tom Brady (Born: 8/3/1977)

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    Brett Favre: Born: 10/10/1969

    Brett Favre's Stat's 2009 included: 531 Passing attempts and 363 Competitions for a Career BEST 68.4 %

    Favre passed for 4202 Yards that Season for a Career BEST 7.9 Yard Average.

    He averaged 262.6 Yards/Game or the 3rd Best in his 20 Year NFL Career.

    Favre had 33 TD's or Tied for 4th Best in his Career.
    Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.
    I stand corrected missed your post and QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Ummm...no. Jerry Rice is the best WR ever and his last two seasons at 41 and 42 were bad. QB, Kicker, maybe punter can compete at 40. No other position has a chance.
    You're right... but Darrell Green came damn close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    That's just silly. You don't think Randy Moss or TO could still get deep? 44 is old, sure, but athletes don't just go from premier to nothing over night. They could easily make a roster, but they both have plenty of money that additional traction on the body isn't worth the salary they'd earn.
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