"PACKER POISED FOR FREE AGENT PURSUITS

[hoosier]

If a 44 year old (former) athlete could make an NFL roster at a skill position today, we would be seeing at least one of them out there. You can slow down the effects of aging on maximal heart rate, VO2max, loss of muscle mass and declining recovery ability, but you cannot stop it. But that aside the idea is just silly. If Owens were to make an NFL roster today he would either be attempting a comeback after seven years of NFL inactivity (and about 14 years past his physical prime) or he would have been on an NFL roster for twenty two years at a skill position, which means he would probably have had at least three career-ending injuries by now and would be on his second set of artificial knees.

[mraynrand]

... attempting a comeback after seven years of NFL inactivity.

'overnight'

[call_me_ishmael]

Meh, I still think Michael Jordan at 50-something could beat 2/3 of the NBA in one-on-one, and I still think Brett Favre, in the right situation, could sit back and sling the football as well as anyone.

Just look at Brady.

Maybe sustained performance is not there, but I think most of these studs can get the fast twitch firin' up again and make some big plays.

[BZnDallas]

What do yall think about David Irving? Rumors in Dallas are saying the Cowboys may place a 2nd round tender on him. I'd consider our second rounder for him. He's really young and really explosive.

[call_me_ishmael]

What do yall think about David Irving? Rumors in Dallas are saying the Cowboys may place a 2nd round tender on him. I'd consider our second rounder for him. He's really young and really explosive.

I would love it. It sounds like he is a rising star. I doubt they will do it due to the financial realities of the game, though.

[woodbuck27]

What do yall think about David Irving? Rumors in Dallas are saying the Cowboys may place a 2nd round tender on him. I'd consider our second rounder for him. He's really young and really explosive.

This has to be a serious consideration:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_...ican_football)

" ...On March 6, 2017, Irving re-signed with the Cowboys.[11] On May 23, 2017, it was announced that Irving would be suspended four games due to violating the league's performance enhancing drugs policy.[12] His appeal was denied and was officially suspended the first four games of the 2017 season.[13]

Despite missing the first four games because of his suspension, and the final two because of a lingering concussion, Irving still accrued seven sacks on the year.[14] ..."

[texaspackerbacker]

Bruce Matthews - Clay's uncle - is another. His brother, Clay Jr. also played to 40 or so, I think, as a LB. You get a few freaks of nature at just about every position who last extra long. Luck has more to do with it than anything else, as even a lot of extremely well conditioned players get hurt bad enough to kill their career or at least greatly diminish their ability.

[bobblehead]

Bruce Matthews - Clay's uncle - is another. His brother, Clay Jr. also played to 40 or so, I think, as a LB. You get a few freaks of nature at just about every position who last extra long. Luck has more to do with it than anything else, as even a lot of extremely well conditioned players get hurt bad enough to kill their career or at least greatly diminish their ability.

Julius Peppers seems to be as well. There are always outliers, but 40 seems to be a magic number for players outside the 3 positions.

[pbmax]

The Butler cannot do it.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...alcolm-butler/

Last offseason, Justis Mosqueda did the research on Thompson’s tendencies for CheeseheadTV. What he found: The Packers like their cornerbacks to be at least 5-11 (or very close), with a 40-yard dash time of 4.57 or better and a three-cone drill time of 6.87 or better.

Butler is listed at NFL.com at 5-11, but that appears to be a stretching of the truth. His pro day results, provided by NFLDraftScout.com, tell a different story.

Butler was measured at Alabama’s Pro Day in 2014 at a little under 5-10. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.62 seconds and posted a three-cone time of 7.20, both well below Thompson’s athletic standards.

[Joemailman]

The Butler cannot do it.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...alcolm-butler/

Last offseason, Justis Mosqueda did the research on Thompson’s tendencies for CheeseheadTV. What he found: The Packers like their cornerbacks to be at least 5-11 (or very close), with a 40-yard dash time of 4.57 or better and a three-cone drill time of 6.87 or better.

Butler is listed at NFL.com at 5-11, but that appears to be a stretching of the truth. His pro day results, provided by NFLDraftScout.com, tell a different story.

Butler was measured at Alabama’s Pro Day in 2014 at a little under 5-10. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.62 seconds and posted a three-cone time of 7.20, both well below Thompson’s athletic standards.

Okay, but Thompson isn't the GM and Capers isn't the DC. Isn't it possible that Gutekunst/Pettine will have different parameters for a CB than Thompson/Capers did? It's hard to say, because I'm not sure how much input Capers had with Thompson, or Pettine has with Gutekunst.

[pbmax]

Okay, but Thompson isn't the GM and Capers isn't the DC. Isn't it possible that Gutekunst/Pettine will have different parameters for a CB than Thompson/Capers did? It's hard to say, because I'm not sure how much input Capers had with Thompson, or Pettine has with Gutekunst.

Butler did say he has run as fast as 4.4 in other timing. And they may have different parameters now for CBs.

But BG is a Ron/Ted guy. And Butler has had two poor years out of three. I don't see why people want to spend more than $9 mil a year for this guy.

[Fritz]

The Butler cannot do it.

https://packerswire.usatoday.com/201...alcolm-butler/

Last offseason, Justis Mosqueda did the research on Thompson’s tendencies for CheeseheadTV. What he found: The Packers like their cornerbacks to be at least 5-11 (or very close), with a 40-yard dash time of 4.57 or better and a three-cone drill time of 6.87 or better.

Butler is listed at NFL.com at 5-11, but that appears to be a stretching of the truth. His pro day results, provided by NFLDraftScout.com, tell a different story.

Butler was measured at Alabama’s Pro Day in 2014 at a little under 5-10. He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.62 seconds and posted a three-cone time of 7.20, both well below Thompson’s athletic standards.

Short 'n slow.

Why do the Packers want that, again?

[texaspackerbacker]

If BG is a Ron/Ted guy, then the Packers are doomed to fart away the rest of Aaron Rodgers' career, same as Ted's last few years. Butler may not be the answer, but we need free agent talent to make up for Ted's last few years - Jimmy Graham for sure and some kind of a solution at Corner.

[Fritz]

Why is everybody so hot on Jimmy Graham? He's injury-prone, hates to block, and his great-grandpa just died.

[ND72]

He's injury-prone, hates to block.

Sounds like a Packer to me.

[Fritz]

It'd be like signing Jermichael Finley after his injuries.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

It'd be like signing Jermichael Finley after his injuries.

I wasn't aware Graham is attempting to return from a catastrophic, potentially career-ending injury. And how the fuck is the guy "injury-prone?" Dude missed 5 games in 2015 (a fluke), but played in at least 15 games in each of his 7 other seasons. By comparison, A-Rod has landed on the IR at least 3 times in his career, in addition to dealing with calf problems once - Is Rodgers injury-prone?

I could see Graham reviving his career in GB the way Tony G did in Atlanta. German Shepherd needs to sign Graham. Whatever it takes.

[Fritz]

I wasn't aware Graham is attempting to return from a catastrophic, potentially career-ending injury. And how the fuck is the guy "injury-prone?" Dude missed 5 games in 2015 (a fluke), but played in at least 15 games in each of his 7 other seasons. By comparison, A-Rod has landed on the IR at least 3 times in his career, in addition to dealing with calf problems once - Is Rodgers injury-prone?

I could see Graham reviving his career in GB the way Tony G did in Atlanta. German Shepherd needs to sign Graham. Whatever it takes.

Fifty-seven catches last year? Started thirteen games? Nine yards per catch? Dude, Richard Rodgers can do that.

[pbmax]

Fifty-seven catches last year? Started thirteen games? Nine yards per catch? Dude, Richard Rodgers can do that.

Rodgers would start more games.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Fifty-seven catches last year? Started thirteen games? Nine yards per catch? Dude, Richard Rodgers can do that.

Tell me, which season exactly did Dick Rod started at least 13 games, caught 57 passes, averaged 9 yds a catch and scored 10 tds.

Using your logic, Adams is overpaid. Dude never once reached 1000 yds receiving and he’s injury prone.