Ron wolf took the expansion Buccaneers to an 0-26 start before leaving the franchise. He never won a superbowl as a GM anywhere else. You guys deify him like he is some epoch success. TT built the seahawks team that went to the superbowl for Holmgren and he won a SB in GB with a QB everyone was pissed that he drafted.
Tell me why people think Wolf was so much better than TT?
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
And he left the Packers in the hands of Sherman....Originally Posted by bobblehead
And 1 glorious year of Ray Rhodes...
Too bad he couldn't sustain it.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Gilbert was a street free agent. None of the malcontents is asking for more of them.Belichickism.
All were free agent acquisitions
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Bobble, its easy to understand. Wolf was very good at answering the phone for reporters and answering questions in a snappy format during press conferences.
Its not yet dawned on the GB press corps (for that matter, the national press corp) that they were snowed.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Can I choose both? I thought they were both pretty awesome. Wolf's last (or second-to-last, depending on which story you believe) GM year, 2000, was one for the ages. Should have netted the Packers a SB in 2002, APRH, and maybe 2003, ANFBF (assuming no Favre brain fart). Brought in Green (on Sherman's recommendation) in a total steal of a trade and 4-5 very productive starters in the draft.
BG has two pair of huge shoes to fill.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
The nickel defense is now the base defense in the NFL. The problem was not that the Packers played too much nickel and dime. The problem was that they did not play it well.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/sports/f...81baafb1c.html
This quote stood out for me:
It sounds like the defense will be fundamentally sound and not be overly complex, but just appear that way. I really like the sound of that, and I hope he pulls it off with the players he has available.“The cornerstone for us is going to be, first of all, fundamentally sound, smart football,” Pettine said. “We coach the heck out of the little details. If you want to get into the schematic stuff, I like to appear multiple. I know people have said the system can be very complicated, but we like to appear multiple without necessarily putting that much stuff in.”
Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
It's kind of just the opposite of what I saw from the Packers defense this past year. The defense seemed too complex for some of the Packer players to grasp, but it didn't seem to fool the opposition.
n the next few months, Pettine will be evaluating this roster to see what he has and see what it can do. The “cupboard isn’t bare,” Pettine remarked.
“In the NFL, it’s all about the players,” Pettine said. “I’ve always been a big believer in having a system and building your roster that way but you have to work with who you have on campus. You can’t win with players you don’t have.”
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Just remember that the phrase MadScientist quoted is the new version of "we want to be aggressive". Everyone wants to do it, few can.
We'll see. For the record, just as Capers had to scale his D back, Pettine and Ryan had to scale back their D in recent years in response to offenses picking up the pace plus going no huddle. Pettine's defenses slipped with the Jets and they mutually parted ways to go to Buffalo.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
I have to say the overall rankings from Football Outsiders (last three numbers) are very good for six of these years. but his pass D relies on a pass rush the Packers don't have right now. Without bolstering it, I think its Capers redux. There will be a bump due to unfamiliarity for at least the first eight games.
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Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Not really. There was no salary cap back then.
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Does Cleveland count as he was "90% administrative and 10% football"? As an aside, this is why Edgar Bennett lost the OC job. McCarthy may call the plays, but he doesn't instill the offense and get it prepared (my read based on snippets of information here and there).
No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
There was, but Reggie was first at the feed bucket.
After that, the Packers were in good cap shape for a while as everyone else tried to sign lesser Reggie's to more money.
Sean Jones they got because he was near the end. Dotson was a plumb get, even if he wasn't a game changer.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Not as much as when he was DC. But it was his defense he installed, so you can't ignore it.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
There is no such thing as an alternative to draft and develop. When you have to follow a salary cap like everyone else, the path to a better team than everyone else is to hit your draft picks. Get great players on ridiculously underpriced rookie contracts. Every good team has this working for them.
Furthermore the free agency of Ron Wolf's day is very different from early Ted's day and starting to change again right now. Players like Reggie White will only hit free agency again in the rarest of circumstances. That was a different world. By Ted's day FA was something that bad teams did to get to the salary cap and good teams to put fingers in the dike. In this time period one of the best signings ever was Woodson and he was considered a major risk. Today FA is still retreads and risks but what's changing is the salary cap is exploding faster than contracts can keep up. Teams have money so might as well get some mercenaries to sure up the ranks.
70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
Belichickism is not about signing every hotshot free agent every offseason. Instead, it's about utilizing ALL aspects -draft, trade, free agency - of players acquisition to improve/upgrade your roster, regularly and competently.
Yes, the Packers made it all the way to the NFC Title game without Randy Fucking Moss, bah, bah, bah. But would the Pack have been a more potent team with Moss? No doubt. Todd (we'll never forget you!) should've traded for Moss long before the Great Belichick had the chance to steal Moss away.
Deshawn Wynn is your best RB and Beast Mode's available - Trade for the Beast, already! MD Fucking Jennings is your starting FS, well, sign TJ Ward! A still-awesome Tony Gonzalez says he would love to play in Green Bay; What the fuck is the Polar Bear waiting for? Richard Rodgers is more fruitless than an apple tree on the north pole, and Vernon Davis is on the trade block; yeah, lets stick with the fruitless man. Gunter is your #1 CB; Antonio Cromartie's past his prime and on the streets of Baltimore selling dope to pay child supports, but Cro's still better than Gunter - Todd's hibernating (or loathes kneeling players). Hundley sucks and there's Kap.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
"Draft and develop" is nothing but a lame excuse incompetent GMs/coaches use to buy time. NFL stands for "Not for Long," doesn't it?
Quarterback is possibly the only position in the NFL in which further "development" is necessary. College is for development. The NFL is for improvement. In other words, players develop in college and in the NFL they seek to get better. As Wolf liked to say, you either can play or you can't in the NFL. An NFL player has to continue getting better, or more likely than not, he will get replaced. You draft a Deshawn Wynn, you get a Deshawn Wynn. You're not gonna "develop" Wynn into a Adrian Peterson.
I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
I guess you're too young to remember back in the day George Allen and the Redskins trading away virtually their entire draft almost every year. They were pretty successful at that alternative method of team building. I don't necessarily advocate that or even a modern version of it, but just saying ......
I would argue that the steadily increasing - you say exploding - salary cap makes quality free agent signing more feasible, not less than in Ron Wolf's day. Wolf of course, was way more draft and develop than most GMs - just not nearly to the extent that Ted Thompson was.
The current plight of the Packers is a direct result of Ron AND Ted's flawed way of doing things. It was masked for over two decades by the greatness of Aaron Rodgers and Favre before him, but it caught up with us last season.
What's this stuff doing in a Pettine thread instead of a Gutekunst thread?
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