Easier to be BPA when you are rebuilding a roster too.
Easier to be BPA when you are rebuilding a roster too.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
When philly is in 7 super Bowls over the next fifteen years then we’ll see how close to cheat they’ve come.
Landry is going to make as much as Adams. Maybe more. In my largely uninformed opinion, he's a better player who did it with a worse QB. He'll make more on the free market if he hits it.
perhaps. they'll have to see if he fits.Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael
I don't want any of the TEs I've seen or heard mentioned before the 4th round. Get Jimmy Graham and then draft a high potential sleeper TE on Saturday.
WR should be handled in-house. Cobb for sure should not be paid $12+ million; Jordy shouldn't either. I'd offer Cobb about a third of that - which would probably mean losing him. I'd offer Jordy the same with large incentives - he just might get some speed back and return to form this far out from his injury, but probably not. Between Adams, Allison, Janis, Davis, Clark, and Yancy, we have plenty of talent and variety without wasting a high pick on somebody who ain't a sure thing - and nobody out there this year is that.
If at all possible, sign a top of the line FA Corner - what we have now is literally half a dozen decent #2 Corners. Signing anything less than a star quality player or risking a first round pick again just wouldn't cut it.
A quality pass rusher is the best bet to produce right away as a first round pick. Marcus Davenport looked awfully good. I also like Okoronko or however it's spelled, but maybe not until the 2nd round. I've been saying for a long time, use Clay Matthews mainly as a ILB. Paired with Martinez and occasionally moving back outside would be great and prolong his career. We absolutely should not use the first round pick for an ILB, considering that we have Martinez and how seldom we use 2 ILBs at a time.
The only other position we aren't pretty well set is O Line. I'd like to see 2 or 3 big road grader types drafted maybe 3rd through 6th round - enough of drafting undersized guys.
Why is all this draft stuff in the Pettine thread?
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I'm anti Jimmy, but since MM seems to forget that running the ball is an option he would probably be a fit.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
http://packerswire.usatoday.com/2018...ckers-in-2018/
Pettine is probably the busiest man in Green Bay right now, figuring out which of the defensive players here are a fit for his defense. To some extent, he has to use what is already here, but his opinions could have a big effect on what Gutey does in free agency and the draft.Clay Matthews will almost certainly be back with the Green Bay Packers in 2018.
New defensive coordinator Mike Pettine and new general manager Brian Gutekunst both recently talked about Matthews in a way that strongly suggests he’s in no danger of losing his roster spot in Green Bay.
At his introductory press conference last week, Pettine raved about Matthews’ unique versatility and said he was “looking forward” to working with him in 2018.
The man who will ultimately make the decision was even more clear on Matthews’ future.
“He still plays at a very, very high level. He’s such a versatile player for us, and I think it will be neat to see how Mike (Pettine) and his new staff kind of use him and maybe move him around. So I’m excited to see that,” Gutekunst said, according to Pete Dougherty of PackersNews.com. “Clay has been a good player for a long time. We expect him to be a good player moving forward.”
Easier said than done, and pretty obvious, but the Packers could use more pass rush and a shutdown corner.
Still too early, but I'm starting to like the German Shepherd. Maybe I won't need to ask Mad to change my username to Anti-German Shepherd, after all.“He still plays at a very, very high level. He’s such a versatile player for us, and I think it will be neat to see how Mike (Pettine) and his new staff kind of use him and maybe move him around. So I’m excited to see that,” Gutekunst said, according to Pete Dougherty of PackersNews.com. “Clay has been a good player for a long time. We expect him to be a good player moving forward.”
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I'm not going to stop the wheel. I'm going to break the wheel.
Not sure that "forget that running the ball is an option" is accurate.
2017 27th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 21st in total plays, 21st in scoring
2016 29th in carries, 5th in pass attempts, 8th in total plays, 4th in scoring
2015 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 15th in scoring
2014 14th in carries, 20th in pass attempts, 24th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2013 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 11th in total plays, 8th in scoring
2012 16th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 5th in scoring
2011 26th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 28th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2010 20th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 20th in total plays, 10th in scoring
It's highly accurate. Stubby gets all flustered when the run is working and has to do something stubby like.
Stats and damn stats. Running the ball 17 times straight into the teeth of a defense after ARod staked you to a 4th quarter lead doesn't mean you value the run. Look at all the success we had running when we were forced to with Hundly. Rodgers comes back and I believe we called 11 running plays.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
2016 and 2017 it certainly looks true. When did EB take over as OC?
No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
2015. 2016 can be explained by the injuries to Lacy and Starks. 2017 they were behind an awful lot. Even when they were winning early, they were being forced to come from behind.
Comparing 2017 to the other year Rodgers went down, they both had running back talent although Lacy was better. They commited to running the offense through the run game that year. Maybe because their QB cupboard was bare. This year, they had their second worst rate since the super bowl, despite having two rookies who appeared to belong in the NFL.
No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
getting behind and playing from behind for whole games does that to you. They couldn't run as effectively when teams realized they didn't need to defense any pass over 15 yards.
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If I ran Stubby's offense, I would run 25% of the time in non-end of half/game scenarios. Play action pass 50%, shotgun pass 20%, shotgun run 5%.
Graham Barfield @GrahamBarfield
New #Titans OC Matt LaFleur has been attached to the two most play-action heavy teams in 2017 as LAR OC (29% of pass plays were PA) and in 2016 as ATL QB Coach (28%). Marcus Mariota led all QBs in YPA on play-action passes (11.1) in 2017, per PFF.
Russell Hudson @rhud1979
You have to run the rock (and run it well) well for play action to work, right?
Graham Barfield @GrahamBarfield
This is a common myth.
Play-action has little to do with success running the ball, and everything to do with deceiving the defense. Play-action was very effective for teams like SEA last year, who had zero consistency running. Balance is overrated.
Brian Burke @bburkeESPN
Can't agree more. Been saying this forever.
Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
We've written about this numerous times and have another guest column on the subject coming from @guga31bb after the Super Bowl.
Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
What matters is not how well you run. What matters is only that you run enough to make the deception of running believeable.
Brian Burke @bburkeESPN
Disagree slightly here. Per game theory, you only need the credible threat of running. PA would work just fine on the very first play of the season.
Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
Right, PA would work fine on the first play of the season because there's an assumption that no team in the NFL runs 90% of the time.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
you at least need to have a back of some kind in the backfield to run play action. Duh. So a critical factor for the GBP is how often they go empty. Sorry, I have no numbers, but seems important for run game 'threat' and ability to fool the defense. But a always, the reason you pass all the time is because your guy/offense does it so well.
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