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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    TT left them in good shape on this with Clark and Daniels. Addition of Wilkerson completes the package.

    I think we are going to learn real fast that Dom was the problem not TT. Of course having Jackson slip to us in the second helped a lot. Possibly best value pick of first 2 rounds.
    https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects

    If The Packers stay at NO. 14 they get 'the absolute BEST Value Pick' in the DRAFT and grab a need The Packers have had for a long time and 'a STAR Impact Player and Defensive Captain for a decade' in the NO. 4 Ranked Overall Graded Prospect - Tremaine Edmunds- ILB - VIRGINIA TECH - GRADE 7.17 - (Typ. NFL.COM Grades) who actually went Rnd 1, Pick 16 to the Buffalo Bills.

    https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/pr...e=2&status=ALL

    Getting CB - Josh Jackson - IOWA and Graded at 6.00 at what Pick No. 44 was good value as he was the NO. 24th Ranked Prospect in this 2018 NFL DRAFT.

    Note: CB Jaire Alexander - Louisville was Graded at 6.03 and the NO. 24th Ranked Prospect in the DRAFT and was picked by Green Bay in Rd. 1 Pick NO. 18.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/prospects

    If The Packers stay at NO. 14 they get 'the absolute BEST Value Pick' in the DRAFT and grab a need The Packers have had for a long time and 'a STAR Impact Player and Defensive Captain for a decade' in the NO. 4 Ranked Overall Graded Prospect - Tremaine Edmunds- ILB - VIRGINIA TECH - GRADE 7.17 - (Typ. NFL.COM Grades) who actually went Rnd 1, Pick 16 to the Buffalo Bills.

    https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/pr...e=2&status=ALL

    Getting CB - Josh Jackson - IOWA and Graded at 6.00 at what Pick No. 44 was good value as he was the NO. 24th Ranked Prospect in this 2018 NFL DRAFT.

    Note: CB Jaire Alexander - Louisville was Graded at 6.03 and the NO. 24th Ranked Prospect in the DRAFT and was picked by Green Bay in Rd. 1 Pick NO. 18.
    Interceptions of Aaron Rodgers:

    Jaire Alexander = 1
    Tremaine Edmunds = 0

    Who cares what their college careers amounted to. Alexander off to much better pro start.
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    We've got some horses to carry out that inside pass rush. Hopefully it will happen. I've seen Aaron Rodgers roll out and away from an inside pass rush so many times, though, that I have some doubts about the effectiveness. Of course, not every team as a mobile QB, and nobody else has Aaron Rodgers.
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    Rodgers, if he stays healthy, will put a lot of points on the board. If the Pack can, after all these years, just field an average defense, great things are possible.
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    In terms of things that sound great as cliches, but aren't always great in reality, I worry about interior pass rush as our calling card if the second level is unaware and doesn't adjust to cover running lanes.

    Trubisky is young and possibly has some mobility not pounded out of him yet. I don't consider Stafford or Cousins to be dual threats, so that's nice. I hate the highlights when contain is lost, along with the pocket, and a QB takes it for a first down. However, it is nice to see a big ugly wrap up a QB with a pelvis-to-pelvis bear hug.
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    I am guessing that Tony Mandarich was graded much higher than Tremaine Edwards. A can't miss pick by the Packers, that we all know how it turned out.
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    IIRC last year Josh Jones was flying all over making plays like a stud in helmets and shorts.
    I've learned not to get caught up in camp hype. GB's coaches are raving about Kizer and McCray, for heaven's sake.

    When it gets to live action I think Edwards be a good player but it will take him some time. Probably a season or two to get the hang of it.

    Love the snark re: ARod INT's, BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    IIRC last year Josh Jones was flying all over making plays like a stud in helmets and shorts.
    I've learned not to get caught up in camp hype. GB's coaches are raving about Kizer and McCray, for heaven's sake.

    When it gets to live action I think Edwards be a good player but it will take him some time. Probably a season or two to get the hang of it.

    Love the snark re: ARod INT's, BTW.
    Yes but what was Jones' draft rating in 2017?
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    Yes but what was Jones' draft rating in 2017?
    I think it was 1.21 jigawatts or something like that.

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    Mike Mayock had Edmunds #11 and Alexander #12 on his big board.

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    The Packers have 25 million wrapped up in outside linebackers that offered very little production in 2017. The Packers have to figure out how to get production from Matthews and Perry for this defense to be productive in 2018.

    It's nice to expect inside pressure, and with Daniels and Clark the Packers have two horses that can apply pressure from the interior, both can win one on one matchups, but without outside pass rush those guys will be double teamed and nullified. To create pressure it comes from scheme and having the right players that can be productive. At the end of the day it is a chess game because the Packers do not have a dominant pass rusher on the field.

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    Yes, but is the cat dead, alive or both at the same time?

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    I have high hopes for a Pettine defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    I have high hopes for a Pettine defense.
    I think the defense will be improved. If nothing else, chewing out players for being sloppy and holding them accountable should help. I think a defense gravitates to a more aggressive personality, and Capers got stale.
    I also like the alleged focus on communication and simplicity. We'll see. The proof will be when the pads (and the lights) go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shadow View Post
    I have high hopes for a Pettine defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
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    A triangle where the apexis represented by 'the Target'of the Pass Rush or the opposition's QB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    Woody, sometimes I can't tell if you're insane or just trolling. It's awe-inspiring. Don't ever change.

    Also, I had to Google apexis. Took me to a World of Warcraft page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgeon View Post
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