Mike Pettine

[run pMc]

Yes but what was Jones' draft rating in 2017?

I think it was 1.21 jigawatts or something like that.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Packers have 25 million wrapped up in outside linebackers that offered very little production in 2017. The Packers have to figure out how to get production from Matthews and Perry for this defense to be productive in 2018.

It's nice to expect inside pressure, and with Daniels and Clark the Packers have two horses that can apply pressure from the interior, both can win one on one matchups, but without outside pass rush those guys will be double teamed and nullified. To create pressure it comes from scheme and having the right players that can be productive. At the end of the day it is a chess game because the Packers do not have a dominant pass rusher on the field.

[woodbuck27]

I doubt you will address this because you have failed to respond before, but here is the crux of my argument over your point above.

The draft grades you cite above are:

1. Anonymous (can you tell me who did the scouting and evaluating at NFL.com?)
2. Contain unwarranted precision. NFL grades are often on an eight point scale. Two decimal points makes it look precise, but its just an average.
3. An average: And we don't know how many numbers are averaged. The more evaluators, especially if we know their track record, the more reliable this number would be.
4. On an unknown scale of magnitude. We have no information about how certain a 1.14 grade differential makes in the prospects chances to perform at a high level. Is this the difference between mid first and high second round?
5. Need. You say that Edmunds was the perfect fit for Pettine. Packers needs were OLB and CB. Explain the better fit here.

While I think about a rebut to your Post above I'll leave you pbmax with this :

A.) http://www.nfl.com/news/author?id=0ap3000000458453

B.)http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...rade-up-for-qb

C.) and also this:

[mraynrand]

Let's look at this in simple terms or view it and a Triangle:

A triangle where the apexis represented by 'the Target'of the Pass Rush or the opposition's QB. The left and right hand points or the extreme points of the Defensive Base of the Triangle are two EDGE Rushers positioned off the LOS and Left and Right Tackles or more skilled OLman than the Guards.

Whoa professor, you're moving a bit fast for me. Is this an isosceles, equilateral, or right triangle? Are you sneaking in non-Euclidean geometry where two pass rushers go upfield in exact parallel lines, but still meet at the QB? What if a triangle is the wrong model and a heptagon is correct with the other five points being four defensive backs and an inside LB? What kind of trigonometry will the Packers have to employ when most of their salary cap goes to an over-the-hill Clay Matthews who TOTALLY disrupts the unit circle?

[George Cumby]

Yes, but is the cat dead, alive or both at the same time?

[The Shadow]

I have high hopes for a Pettine defense.

[run pMc]

A triangle where the apexis represented by 'the Target'of the Pass Rush or the opposition's QB.

Woody, sometimes I can't tell if you're insane or just trolling. It's awe-inspiring. Don't ever change.

Also, I had to Google apexis. Took me to a World of Warcraft page.

[run pMc]

I have high hopes for a Pettine defense.

I think the defense will be improved. If nothing else, chewing out players for being sloppy and holding them accountable should help. I think a defense gravitates to a more aggressive personality, and Capers got stale.
I also like the alleged focus on communication and simplicity. We'll see. The proof will be when the pads (and the lights) go on.

[Smidgeon]

Woody, sometimes I can't tell if you're insane or just trolling. It's awe-inspiring. Don't ever change.

Also, I had to Google apexis. Took me to a World of Warcraft page.

I hated those crystals.

[Joemailman]

Earlier this year Pettine said, "If the other team knows what defense you're in pre-snap, you're in trouble". That alone suggests that the Packers defense this year will force opposing offenses into tougher decisions than was the case last year.

[Cheesehead Craig]

If he can just get the defense to above average, it will be a great season. I personally think he'll do better than that.

[Joemailman]

I have high hopes for a Pettine defense.

[pbmax]

Woody, sometimes I can't tell if you're insane or just trolling. It's awe-inspiring. Don't ever change.

Also, I had to Google apexis. Took me to a World of Warcraft page.

So how is the new campaign going?


EDITED: to remove stupidity

[The Shadow]

If he can just get the defense to above average, it will be a great season. I personally think he'll do better than that.

Me, too.

[The Shadow]

Sinatra has a kind of Ed Grimsley hair thing going there.

[Joemailman]

You do have an eye for such things, I must say.

[bobblehead]

I doubt you will address this because you have failed to respond before, but here is the crux of my argument over your point above.

The draft grades you cite above are:

1. Anonymous (can you tell me who did the scouting and evaluating at NFL.com?)
2. Contain unwarranted precision. NFL grades are often on an eight point scale. Two decimal points makes it look precise, but its just an average.
3. An average: And we don't know how many numbers are averaged. The more evaluators, especially if we know their track record, the more reliable this number would be.
4. On an unknown scale of magnitude. We have no information about how certain a 1.14 grade differential makes in the prospects chances to perform at a high level. Is this the difference between mid first and high second round?
5. Need. You say that Edmunds was the perfect fit for Pettine. Packers needs were OLB and CB. Explain the better fit here.

Careful. Michael Bennett might kick ur ass.

[bobblehead]

I hated those crystals.

My Mage is still impaled somewhere on one of them

[pbmax]

We really are a bunch of geeky, suburban middle schoolers, aren't we?

[Deputy Nutz]

Earlier this year Pettine said, "If the other team knows what defense you're in pre-snap, you're in trouble". That alone suggests that the Packers defense this year will force opposing offenses into tougher decisions than was the case last year.

At the same time it helps when your defenders know what defense they are in. The offense may know the defense, but you don't have a chance if your corners think you are in cover two and the safeties think you are in 2 read. That happened multiple times last season, and the breakdowns usually led to huge plays against the Packers' defense.