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    There’s absolutely nothing wrong with looking at the overall team speed as a problem.
    However speed is just one factor to consider here. When defending for example, body positioning and where the defenders eyes are focussed would be a higher priority in my opinion.
    In the AFC Championship game Stephon Gilmore made perhaps the play of the game when he reached out and swatted the ball away.
    Point is that speed often has very little to do with the majority of plays on the field.

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    Did I read this right: The Raiders' receiving crop was the 2nd slowest in the NFL in 2017? If there's an afterlife, Al Davis must be shaking his head and shouting the f-word angrily.

    Speed is awesome in real life and definitely on Madden. The Packers do need to get faster at the WR position. The German Shepard can start by re-signing Janis. While pass catchers like Jennings, James Jones, Driver and Nelson played well with only average speed via precise route running, having a receiver with great speed would allow the Packer offense to bomb defenses into the abyss.
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    Amazing how some posters never miss an opportunity to piss on Janis.

    I doubt McCarthy hates him hahahaha. He may very well hate the idea of giving playing time to younger players at some positions over other players. There also really seems to be something to this preference for slower receivers thing. Of course, ability to get open and catch the ball is important too, right there with speed. Janis (and Davis) have caught it as well as anybody, and route running is pretty much a learned skill - so it's on the coaches if they haven't improved as much as young guys from other teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Amazing how some posters never miss an opportunity to piss on Janis.

    I doubt McCarthy hates him hahahaha. He may very well hate the idea of giving playing time to younger players at some positions over other players. There also really seems to be something to this preference for slower receivers thing. Of course, ability to get open and catch the ball is important too, right there with speed. Janis (and Davis) have caught it as well as anybody, and route running is pretty much a learned skill - so it's on the coaches if they haven't improved as much as young guys from other teams.
    Thunderdan misinterpreted me, I don't believe the Packers hate Janis, but I do believe young receivers need playing time to get better. I also believe Janis' window of opportunity with the packers closed quite awhile ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Amazing how some posters never miss an opportunity to piss on Janis.

    I doubt McCarthy hates him hahahaha. He may very well hate the idea of giving playing time to younger players at some positions over other players.
    This is a dumb take too. Stubby gave plenty of time to Jennings and Jones when they were young. Finley, Cobb, and Monty as well. Why? Because they had talent and knew what they were doing. Isn't it obvious that Janis doesn't cut it? Maybe the guy is good for a few patterns, but the lack of trustworthiness (and this comes from Rodgers, not Stubby) was a huge detriment. You can't play with a guy who doesn't do the right thing on almost every play.
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    Janice shines in garbage time. If the Packers just get down 21 every game, Janice will be an all pro.
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    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    Was this past season year 3 of waiting for Janis to blossom? Spoiler alert for 2018: its not happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bossman641 View Post
    Was this past season year 3 of waiting for Janis to blossom? Spoiler alert for 2018: its not happening.
    IKR?

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    Like I said ....... dumbasses never missing an opportunity to piss on Janis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Like I said ....... dumbasses never missing an opportunity to piss on Janis.
    If Janis is one of those people who likes getting peed on, then I guess it's okay. To each his own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    If Janis is one of those people who likes getting peed on, then I guess it's okay. To each his own.
    lol
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    Thankfully we have Tex at each Packers practice to see Janice in all his amazing glory.
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    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    Janis is an Unrestricted Free Agent . Who's to say they even bring him back at the minimum, or otherwise? I guess we'll find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
    Janis is an Unrestricted Free Agent . Who's to say they even bring him back at the minimum, or otherwise? I guess we'll find out.
    I'm all for playing Janis at receiver, but if the Packers are serious about special teams, Janis is a must resign. If there's a prototype gunner, Janis is it - the perfect combination of size and speed. Deserves at least $2M/yr.

    Belichick keeps 2-3 players solely for special teams every season, and I'm not talking about the kicker, punter and long snapper. Matthew Slater, for example, can't hold Janis' jockstrap as a receiver, but he continues to win rings with the Pats b/c of his special teams kung fu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    I'm all for playing Janis at receiver, but if the Packers are serious about special teams, Janis is a must resign. If there's a prototype gunner, Janis is it - the perfect combination of size and speed. Deserves at least $2M/yr.

    Belichick keeps 2-3 players solely for special teams every season, and I'm not talking about the kicker, punter and long snapper. Matthew Slater, for example, can't hold Janis' jockstrap as a receiver, but he continues to win rings with the Pats b/c of his special teams kung fu.
    Is he making 2+ mil per year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Is he making 2+ mil per year?
    Not sure, but Bush's last contract with the Packers averaged about $1.75 M/yr (3 yrs/ $5.25, $1M signing bonus, according to spotrac.com). Janis is just as good, if not better, a gunner/special teams ace as Bush was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Not sure, but Bush's last contract with the Packers averaged about $1.75 M/yr (3 yrs/ $5.25, $1M signing bonus, according to spotrac.com). Janis is just as good, if not better, a gunner/special teams ace as Bush was.
    Did Bush ever get any All Pro votes for his ST work?

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    Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear
    " ... I'm all for playing Janis at receiver, but if the Packers are serious about special teams, Janis is a must resign. If there's a prototype gunner, Janis is it - the perfect combination of size and speed. Deserves at least $2M/yr.

    Belichick keeps 2-3 players solely for special teams every season, and I'm not talking about the kicker, punter and long snapper. Matthew Slater, for example, can't hold Janis' jockstrap as a receiver, but he continues to win rings with the Pats b/c of his special teams kung fu. " Original Post for pbmax's Comment below


    Quote Originally Posted by pbmax View Post
    Is he making 2+ mil per year?
    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-engla...w-slater-4628/

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodbuck27 View Post
    Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear
    " ... I'm all for playing Janis at receiver, but if the Packers are serious about special teams, Janis is a must resign. If there's a prototype gunner, Janis is it - the perfect combination of size and speed. Deserves at least $2M/yr.

    Belichick keeps 2-3 players solely for special teams every season, and I'm not talking about the kicker, punter and long snapper. Matthew Slater, for example, can't hold Janis' jockstrap as a receiver, but he continues to win rings with the Pats b/c of his special teams kung fu. " Original Post for pbmax's Comment below




    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-engla...w-slater-4628/

    Matthew Slater ...WR for the NE Patriots
    Age: 32 ... Exp: 10 Years
    Drafted: Round 5 (#153 overall), 2008 ... College: California-Los Angeles
    Agent(s): Rep 1 Sports


    Janis indeed deserves at least $2 M/yr.
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    Janis is good at "500" ball. That kinda style doesn't work within s structured offense.
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