I'm glad to see you posting wist43.
Take it really easy Packer fan.
Noone with even half a brain is going to defend The Packer BRASS and this real mess over that past three days.
The Saturday Night LIVE comedy writers couldn't write it up any more screwey.
Let's call it a Rookie GM Panic Attack.
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LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
GOOTEY COULD HAVE NAILED THIS DRAFT BUT TRADING UP FIVE SPOTS AND NAB HAROLD LANDRY IN ROUND 2; instead Tennessee jumped in front of us and got him
Last 6 years....one OLB in rounds 1-3....and does Fackrelll really even count ????
BIEGEL...wisty...you haven't seen enough to give him the Fackrell grade already
You might be right but give him one year before you throw him in the shitter.
Agree with the rest.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
So...building on this post and Bretsky's, I think it was, would you Packerrats prefer the draft class as is, or Harold Landry instead of Jackson in the second, which would cost you one of your two fourths plus a fifth, which means you'd give up that punter and that Joe Thomas-like third round guy?
In other words, Wist, while you and I have serious disagreements in many ways, I agree with much of your analysis above.
[QUOTE=mraynrand;974278]If Jackson turns out better than Landry, then I say keep as is. If Landry turns out better, I'd like to go back in time and change the draft.[/QUOTE
Pussy...lol
Given our roster, I'm moving up all day long for Landry. Even if they are equivalent players, there were opportunities to get quality CB's later..aka....Nelson.......
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I mentioned something in the draft thread that Landry looked like a one trick pony to me - shoulder dip upfield and that's it. I like the Jackson pick because of the way he plays, and I'd stay with him if it were my choice. I worry that he's mostly faced some pretty rotten QBs.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
When asked Former Packer GM responded yes he failed in his inaugural Draft..
Brian Gutekunst Blew the Draft with one name:
** Tremaine Edmunds
** Tremaine Edmunds - VIRGINIA TECH
Rnd 1, Pick 16 ILB Buffalo Bills - Junior - GRADE = 7.17
Pick Analysis:
He doesn't turn 20 until May 2. He's an off the ball linebacker and some people think he's so talented, he might even be a pass rusher on third down. His future is immense. He's got this rare size and skill set that gives him a sub-package versatility that is unknown in today's game. --Mike Mayock
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tremai...0-412c60099aca
Overview
Edmunds combines elite size, speed and explosiveness into a productive, versatile linebacker package that will have evaluators salivating. Edmunds has posted high-impact production over the last two seasons and he still has room to get bigger and better. He will make mental mistakes and his instincts are subpar, but he has an ability to mitigate those issues with his athletic ability. Edmunds can play in any alignment at any linebacker spot and has All-Pro potential no matter where he lands.
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I'll go one step more and tossing this Draft in the Shitter:
I feel it surpassed every TT Draft in terms of 'WTF was that Pick about'? How was that even possible !?
Was TT there screaming NO ! I want my Guy !?
Brian Gutekunst is the GM of a Pro Football team NOT a Track and Field Team.
Pick Football Players not Track Stars.
I wasn't at all impressed with the Packers War Rom performance Thursday Night. That was a sad case of too much Razzle Dazzle and frankly the New Packer GMis getting the blame for that charade of serious ERROR. He blew it frankly and I'll write down one name to place an accent on the degree of his failure...ILB Tremaine Edmunds and his 7.17 GRADE or OK Two and add Safety Derwin James and his 6.44 Grade.
This Draft we saw the clearest example of PANIC and obviously either bad preperation or the wrong man calling the wrong Final decisions and the Actual Picks. Even when I was calling for a certain Position Pick they only got it half right. There were no Home Runs except I was mildly pleased to see who the Packers landed at Pick NO, 45. I was surprised that they went CB and then another CB but the fact that CB - Joshua Jackson was available, might have turned that trick.
I posted this elsewhere. THe conclusion that the NFL is in collusion is over the TOP too obvious now.
As a part of that agreement it sure seems like the "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" Policy fPact is in.
I can see the Green Bay Packer Grade (s) now and all 'the Packerrat Cool Aid Drinkers' shouting 'see that..that was a GREAT Draft afterall'. GREAT DRAFT for the Packers !? If that Draft earns the Packers higher than a C + Grade that supports 'a collusion policy'.
That wasn't even close to a good Draft. That DRAFT simply sucked hugh air right out of the throats of Packer Nation. That was a horrible Draft on Paper. That was a disgrace and embarrassment to Packer Nation.
How much really did that Draft help our strength or the Packer Offense?
Was the weakness on the RHS of the Packer OL addressed? A solid GUARD or Tackle.
Did Brian Gutekunst and his Draft Team (all of his Scouting Dept.) come up with anything even resembling a decent shot of a compliment to WR Davante Adams? That draft all but ensured that Adams will be nullified in 2018.
Te NFL is like a chess match today. You need the brains to compete or you simply must lose the Chess Game. The Collective Brains of the Green Bay Packer BRASS looked fried this past three days.
This DRAFT 'on Paper' was a disaster.
** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
The potential upside is huge. Dude could be a monster at ILB, maybe even outside a bit too. But that's not where the team was hurting the most. This was a need draft. Not only do the Packers need corners but they are going to need them to start. That Edmunds kid is a lot more raw than the Packer CBs.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
I really like N Nelson form the Mighty Badgers
CB's were so deep this year they were there in round 4 and 5
Elite talent LB'ers were not.
Edmunds is a high risk/high reward guy though. He's only 19.
I worry we had a chance to get an elite person on defense...and we never get that shot because we never draft this high
Hope we made the right call.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I don't necessarily think the draft was that deep at CB this year. There were 4 CBs that I felt really good about (Ward, Alexander, Oliver, Josh Jackson). There were a few others that I liked (Dawson, Hughes, Donte Jackson). A couple of boom or bust prospects (Averett, Davis). After that, it wasn't overly impressive. There were some with good sleeper potential (Nelson, Hill, Maddox).
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Now there's a man who understands what it means to be a fan.
I tip my hat to you. Well played.
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KYPack
Maybe this will help those of you who think Burks can’t play a lick of football.
http://www.patriots.com/video/2018/0...-lb-vanderbilt
I think maybe he can play a little.
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** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau