Official Super Bowl LII Game Day Thread

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Clearly the fault lies with the GM. He fielded a defense that couldn't get a stop all night. Without Brady that organization is crap!!! Fire them all before the waste Brady's last year or 2.

613!!!

5 rings. 8 games. Less than 2 decades. Way better than a fluke win via that draft and develop bullshit.

Belichick doesn't have to prove anything to anyone anymore. Ditto, TB12. Both are already GOATs.

[bobblehead]

5 rings. 8 games. Less than 2 decades. Way better than a fluke win via that draft and develop bullshit.

Belichick doesn't have to prove anything to anyone anymore. Ditto, TB12. Both are already GOATs.

613
And couldn't stop a backup QB. Nothing but a crappy team that is helped by the refs and cheating. They aren't even good if they play legal much less great.

CHOKE!!

[woodbuck27]

613
And couldn't stop a backup QB. Nothing but a crappy team that is helped by the refs and cheating. They aren't even good if they play legal much less great.

CHOKE!!

Comment woodbuck27:

I like to try to keep the Politics and the Hate Factor out of any discussion and Sports. Otherwise, I believe that 'the Idiot Watch' Alert Light ON ... applies!

Is this really necessary!?



Trying to serve any discussion on the side of being objective rather than subjective and nonsense. I offer this:

QUESTION:

Are the New England Patriots the greatest franchise in NFL history?

Have a look at this and 'just one man's view' of that question:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...BBItWDp#page=1

Are the New England Patriots the Greatest NFL Franchise in NFL History?

There's a strong argument that says that by far their not !

Touchdown Wire

BY: Chris Chase ....6 days ago

[mraynrand]

Clearly the fault lies with the GM. He fielded a defense that couldn't get a stop all night. Without Brady that organization is crap!!! Fire them all before the waste Brady's last year or 2.

613!!!

I think you mean 538!

[Guiness]

Does anyone have thoughts on why both defenses uterly collapsed? NE got one stop all game with the interception, and the Eagles defense only fared marginally better, with 2 stops if you don't count the last drive.

[ThunderDan]

Does anyone have thoughts on why both defenses uterly collapsed? NE got one stop all game with the interception, and the Eagles defense only fared marginally better, with 2 stops if you don't count the last drive.

NE got 2 stops. The INT and forced a punt on a 3 and out.

[Carolina_Packer]

Does anyone have thoughts on why both defenses uterly collapsed? NE got one stop all game with the interception, and the Eagles defense only fared marginally better, with 2 stops if you don't count the last drive.

They brought Dom Capers in the consult with Matt Patricia? Just a guess.

[bobblehead]

I think you mean 538!

Oh yea. NE got 613. Both teams are frauds.

[pbmax]

On that Brady strip sack, Collingsworth also said that moving Brandon Graham into a DT position was akin to what Steve Spagnuolo did with the Giants pass rush in 2007.

Its also what every other team does with its nickel and dime pass rush

But OK.

[pbmax]

Well, Hoody is taking it on the chin for not playing Malcolm Butler for even one snap on defense. He was active but never left the bench to play defense. Eric Rowe started opposite Gilmore and didn't fare well. He played for the Eagles before and a Philly assistant said they knew he was out there and were trying to get Jeffrey matched up on him.

BB said it wasn't disciplinary but using players who gave them best chance to win. Matt Patricia said the same thing and added it was regardless of packages or game situation.

Rowe said he spent all week starting opposite Gilmore in practice but did not find out officially until kickoff.

Sounds like a coaching effort to get a good player to respond backfired on them to me.

https://deadspin.com/where-the-hell-...ler-1822718154

Former Pat DB Brandon Browner thinks Bill screwed the pooch.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BezUdD9j...-by=bbrowner39

[pbmax]

The did not give him a long term contract last offseason and he is a FA this offseason. Clearly the Pats are done with him. But I have no idea what the objections are.

Its possible that a pending contract situation has cost another player a lost season. Remember Jermichael Finley's yips and fear of getting hit?

RapSheet before the game with Butler, MB admits he has not had a good season, says its not contract based. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-next-contract

Its also possible the Patriots see him as a good but not special player. His rookie year (the year of the SB goal line interception) he allowed a QB rating of 97.5 on passes in his direction. In 2016 it was 78.2. In 2017 it was 96.6 this year. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...s-down-season/

[mraynrand]

On that Brady strip sack, Collingsworth also said that moving Brandon Graham into a DT position was akin to what Steve Spagnuolo did with the Giants pass rush in 2007.

Its also what every other team does with its nickel and dime pass rush

But OK.

Yeah, but that HR specialist who only watches football drunk once a year doesn't know that. But then of course she thinks DT is delirium tremens...

[bobblehead]

Yeah, but that HR specialist who only watches football drunk once a year doesn't know that. But then of course she thinks DT is delirium tremens...

And she wouldn't have watched if it were Bortles/Foles...which is why the NFL doesn't call holding on the patriots OL. Or any other penalty. That is one special team that can play the 2 biggest games of the year and only commit 2 penalties between them. 1 token flag each game early on, just so the refs could say "see, we threw a flag on the Patriots too!"

Without the 2 big D holding penalties is this even a game?

[pbmax]

Strip Sack in about 8 different languages. Austrian is strong contender, Harlan and Australia make for good radio. I think the French were on an expresso break or the video isn't sync'd correctly to them.


https://content.jwplatform.com/previ...a356e77ccb40fb

[Teamcheez1]

If you told me that Tom Brady threw for 500 yards I would have said the Patriots walked away with the game.
The defenses were approaching Dom Capers territory for both teams.

Entertaining game, not an Eagles fan, but not sad to see the Patriots go down.

[Rutnstrut]

The argument that Rodgers would have done better is pointless. First of all GB has to have good enough coaching to get to the SB. Also Rodgers has to actually stay healthy.

[mraynrand]

The argument that Rodgers would have done better is pointless. First of all GB has to have good enough coaching to get to the SB. Also Rodgers has to actually stay healthy.

I'm betting Stubby would have had Randall play only on ST too.

[Rutnstrut]

I'm betting Stubby would have had Randall play only on ST too.

If stubby ever gets to another Superb Owl, we may see.

[pbmax]

I'm betting Stubby would have had Randall play only on ST too.

Speaking of the lesser of two evils, who do you start when two outside CBs have shortcomings that the opposition will try to take advantage of?

Doug Farrar says Bill probably did not like either of his choices at CB. Links to a report that Butler had some practice reps taken from him starting with the playoff bye week. Both choices (Butler or Rowe) presented problems on the outside and neither is a true natural fit at slot.

Let this serve also as a reminder why FAs from other teams are often terrible choices; no one knows their shortcomings like their original team. Everyone remembers Larry Brown, right? The headline for this piece oversells the idea that there was a more correct choice. The piece details why Belichick was worried about both.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...?share=twitter

[woodbuck27]

Speaking of the lesser of two evils, who do you start when two outside CBs have shortcomings that the opposition will try to take advantage of?

Doug Farrar says Bill probably did not like either of his choices at CB. Links to a report that Butler had some practice reps taken from him starting with the playoff bye week. Both choices (Butler or Rowe) presented problems on the outside and neither is a true natural fit at slot.

Let this serve also as a reminder why FAs from other teams are often terrible choices; no one knows their shortcomings like their original team. Everyone remembers Larry Brown, right? The headline for this piece oversells the idea that there was a more correct choice. The piece details why Belichick was worried about both.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...?share=twitter

This was thoroughly discussed yesterday on the NFL Network.

There were several factors that led to Belichick benching Malcolm Butler and the likely deciding factor and what Bill Belichick demands of everyone on his Roster, or to be fully engaged in winning the next game. Malcolm Butler screwed himself and is IMO done as a New England Patriot for at least his immediate future and the NFL.

He needs to prove that he has learned the Bill Belichick way ! He won't prove that now on The New England Patriots.

https://247sports.com/nfl/new-englan...ing--114671391