IMO, what's wrong is the results. Players will put up with an asshole coach they they're winning and getting results.
Nobody’s saying he’s an asshole, exactly. Just incompetent. The players don’t respect him at all, that’s clear.
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That makes sense. If a team is playing well, it'll put up with the coach, even if he's Satan incarnate. So if Barry has this defense playing well, they'd be on board. But they have sniffed out his incompetence.
I think after The Flower had to TELL Joe to blitz more (when was that? The SF playoff game where King got burned?), he must've had an inkling Joe weren't the guy. Yet LeFleur sat on his hands, and here we are.
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The game I know of where he told Barry (sort of) to bring pressure was week 2 in 2021 against the Lions. Packers trailed 17-14 at halftime. I read that MLF told him that if he's rushing 4 and not getting to the QB he can't just keep rushing 4. He either has to bring pressure or drop 8 and play coverage. Barry brought pressure and the Packers shut them out in the 2nd half.
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Read over on ESPN, that Jaire has an $8M roster bonus due to him on March 20th.
On Acme, they say the total dead cap if we move off of him is $27M next year. They seem to say we’re stuck paying the bonus and him playing for us short a major contract restructure which is not likely.
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i think he costs around 24 million against the cap right now for next season
so we would take an extra 3 million dollar hit if we get rid of him
27 million dollar hit is a big hit for a player not on your team, but its not unheard of if you want the guy gone
i also saw the 8 million dollar roster bonus. i have no clue how that figures into the cap hit though
He still has a lot of trade value. If you can land a couple premium picks it might be worth eating the money. But tex is correct in his next post. We have a ton of athletes who are capable of playing in a more man type scheme. Savage and Alexander are miscast in this system....of course, the system blows so everyone is miscast.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
I'd kinda like to see Jaire play for a different Packer DC and DB coach.
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I just read an article this morning suggesting the Packers will NOT be parting ways with Jaire after the season, as his contract is too expensive and he's not considered a problem in the locker room.
So yes, maybe hire a DC who will play to his players' strengths.
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I think Jaire is a weird quirky dude. The good ones almost all are. See Rodgers, Aaron or Favre, Bert. Tom Brady actually seems like a normal ass dude to me for the GOAT, which is kind of unexpected. JJ Watt, too.
Agree he's a weird dude.
Agree Berry is probably liked as a person and maybe even as a coach (I've heard he's a good dude, actually), but not as a play caller. He would probably be best served as a position coach and not a coordinator.
I don't get the impression he's a quick thinker, and I think he likes to default to rush 4 and drop 7 into zone. That's a Rod Marinelli Tampa 2 thing, and that's where his true roots are.
As for Jaire, I don't think they could trade him if they wanted to, which they don't.
He'd be the largest non QB cap hit if he were traded or cut, and he's owed a lot of money still. They'll need to restructure some of his money next season to get cap space to do anything outside of signing their draft picks.
Eating his contract by trading him is not a good idea, especially when you have the David Bakhtiari and Aaron Jones contracts to consider.
Jaire probably needs a fresh start next season and a new DC... my guess is he comes in re-energized and with (according to him) an all new Jaire attitude and plays up to his reputation. Injuries have bothered him all year, but even early in the season he wasn't that great. He wasn't All-Pro, that's for sure. CBs usually don't have long windows of greatness, he has work to do to reach that level again.
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