Two smart, hard working, strong minded dudes they were. I had debates with Jordan many times.

To me, it's bizzarre to believe in the bible, but I respect people who follow it more than those who don't and say they're christian. At least these guys made an attempt to interperate it for themselves instead of following a church.

That said, I don't believe in religion at all. I believe in living simply and peacefully and taking care of my kids and my mom and being loyal to my close people. I don't believe it because a book tells me to. I believe Im just put together in such a way that I like food, naps, sports, sex, and I connect to peoople and feel attachment and loyalty. It's who I am, not what I'm told to do. I choose my life by being true to myself and my close people

But I liked both of these guys