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    At a recent family (internet) internet gathering, without any suggestions/promotions from me of any kind, the subject turned to Americas current social makeup. Both political points of view were solidly represented. To my amazement there was a conscientious agreement about the decades long decline in social standards. How what now would not raise an eyebrow today in years past would find the offender fined or in some places locked up in a jail. I made no comment, but thought to myself how true and that I see it all the time on the internet.

    IMO, too few families are instilling any basic child religious training, moral social organizations (Girl Scouts/Boy Scouts/ religious organizations) that promote self reliance,morality, courtesy, and good manners. Sadely, instead of raising our nation through "Affirmative Action" and equal rights legislation, America has slid down instead of up with it's "society's norms".

    I used to take pride in America, but as I read post here in this forum, it is clear that many have no self pride. Expand this behavior to America and it becomes understandable how hate for America grows each day across the world. Post like mine encouraging members to clean up their act, just throws gasoline on the fire. People don't like to change, but history shows case after case where the deterioration of societies have lead to social/economic disasters and even in some cases wars.

    For those that don't believe in God, or that God has no place in their lives, I say this. The Bible is not just a collection of stories designed to scare people. It is also a verified written history and the same God that flooded the earth, destroyed cities, sent famine/plagues is still on the job today. The way we behave during our lives is being logged and we each will have to answer for our good/bad behavior. Yes , Jesus did give his life to shield us from gods wrath, but even he will not shield many from their unforgivable behavior/s. Go ahead and laugh, poke fun, behave as you please, but remember they laughed at Noah and Lot and even at Jesus himself when they went about their good works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
    At a recent family (internet) internet gathering, without any suggestions/promotions from me of any kind, the subject turned to Americas current social makeup. Both political points of view were solidly represented. To my amazement there was a conscientious agreement about the decades long decline in social standards. How what now would not raise an eyebrow today in years past would find the offender fined or in some places locked up in a jail. I made no comment, but thought to myself how true and that I see it all the time on the internet.

    IMO, too few families are instilling any basic child religious training, moral social organizations (Girl Scouts/Boy Scouts/ religious organizations) that promote self reliance,morality, courtesy, and good manners. Sadely, instead of raising our nation through "Affirmative Action" and equal rights legislation, America has slid down instead of up with it's "society's norms".

    I used to take pride in America, but as I read post here in this forum, it is clear that many have no self pride. Expand this behavior to America and it becomes understandable how hate for America grows each day across the world. Post like mine encouraging members to clean up their act, just throws gasoline on the fire. People don't like to change, but history shows case after case where the deterioration of societies have lead to social/economic disasters and even in some cases wars.

    For those that don't believe in God, or that God has no place in their lives, I say this. The Bible is not just a collection of stories designed to scare people. It is also a verified written history and the same God that flooded the earth, destroyed cities, sent famine/plagues is still on the job today. The way we behave during our lives is being logged and we each will have to answer for our good/bad behavior. Yes , Jesus did give his life to shield us from gods wrath, but even he will not shield many from their unforgivable behavior/s. Go ahead and laugh, poke fun, behave as you please, but remember they laughed at Noah and Lot and even at Jesus himself when they went about their good works.
    "Sadely"--or was it sagely?--the figure that you invoke here also said something about not judging lest you too be judged by the very standard to which you hold others. It will not go well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
    At a recent family (internet) internet gathering, without any suggestions/promotions from me of any kind, the subject turned to Americas current social makeup. Both political points of view were solidly represented. To my amazement there was a conscientious agreement about the decades long decline in social standards. How what now would not raise an eyebrow today in years past would find the offender fined or in some places locked up in a jail. I made no comment, but thought to myself how true and that I see it all the time on the internet.

    IMO, too few families are instilling any basic child religious training, moral social organizations (Girl Scouts/Boy Scouts/ religious organizations) that promote self reliance,morality, courtesy, and good manners. Sadely, instead of raising our nation through "Affirmative Action" and equal rights legislation, America has slid down instead of up with it's "society's norms".

    I used to take pride in America, but as I read post here in this forum, it is clear that many have no self pride. Expand this behavior to America and it becomes understandable how hate for America grows each day across the world. Post like mine encouraging members to clean up their act, just throws gasoline on the fire. People don't like to change, but history shows case after case where the deterioration of societies have lead to social/economic disasters and even in some cases wars.

    For those that don't believe in God, or that God has no place in their lives, I say this. The Bible is not just a collection of stories designed to scare people. It is also a verified written history and the same God that flooded the earth, destroyed cities, sent famine/plagues is still on the job today. The way we behave during our lives is being logged and we each will have to answer for our good/bad behavior. Yes , Jesus did give his life to shield us from gods wrath, but even he will not shield many from their unforgivable behavior/s. Go ahead and laugh, poke fun, behave as you please, but remember they laughed at Noah and Lot and even at Jesus himself when they went about their good works.
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    Radagast, I'm seeing a new side to you in this most recent post of yours, mainly in the area of religion. Hoosier has a point about judging. It seems like you do a lot of that, and usually over questionable behaviors and attitudes that don't have much Biblical basis.

    This sentence you wrote is particularly puzzling: "Sadely, instead of raising our nation through "Affirmative Action" and equal rights legislation, America has slid down instead of up with it's "society's norms". I'm not just talking about misspelling "sadly". What exactly did you mean by this? It seems like it could be taken two diametrically opposite views on affirmative action and equal rights legislation. Which of those is what you meant to say?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Radagast View Post
    At a recent family (internet) internet gathering, without any suggestions/promotions from me of any kind, the subject turned to Americas current social makeup. Both political points of view were solidly represented. To my amazement there was a conscientious agreement about the decades long decline in social standards. How what now would not raise an eyebrow today in years past would find the offender fined or in some places locked up in a jail. I made no comment, but thought to myself how true and that I see it all the time on the internet.

    IMO, too few families are instilling any basic child religious training, moral social organizations (Girl Scouts/Boy Scouts/ religious organizations) that promote self reliance,morality, courtesy, and good manners. Sadely, instead of raising our nation through "Affirmative Action" and equal rights legislation, America has slid down instead of up with it's "society's norms".

    I used to take pride in America, but as I read post here in this forum, it is clear that many have no self pride. Expand this behavior to America and it becomes understandable how hate for America grows each day across the world. Post like mine encouraging members to clean up their act, just throws gasoline on the fire. People don't like to change, but history shows case after case where the deterioration of societies have lead to social/economic disasters and even in some cases wars.

    For those that don't believe in God, or that God has no place in their lives, I say this. The Bible is not just a collection of stories designed to scare people. It is also a verified written history and the same God that flooded the earth, destroyed cities, sent famine/plagues is still on the job today. The way we behave during our lives is being logged and we each will have to answer for our good/bad behavior. Yes , Jesus did give his life to shield us from gods wrath, but even he will not shield many from their unforgivable behavior/s. Go ahead and laugh, poke fun, behave as you please, but remember they laughed at Noah and Lot and even at Jesus himself when they went about their good works.
    The first thing Noah did after landing the ark was to go get hammered. But Jesus loves him anyway.

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    It's my experience that nothing gets people to behave better than to wag your finger in their face and tell them how they aren't behaving the way you want them to.

    I find this technique to be particularly effective when I wrap it in a metric ton of supercilious, condescending judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    It's my experience that nothing gets people to behave better than to wag your finger in their face and tell them how they aren't behaving the way you want them to.

    I find this technique to be particularly effective when I wrap it in a metric ton of supercilious, condescending judgement.
    Is this sarcasm? Asking for Tex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    Is this sarcasm? Asking for Tex.
    No, I knew he was being sarcastic. If he really meant it, he would have spelled judgment right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    It's my experience that nothing gets people to behave better than to wag your finger in their face and tell them how they aren't behaving the way you want them to.

    I find this technique to be particularly effective when I wrap it in a metric ton of supercilious, condescending judgement.
    I know it works wonders with my kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
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    I agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    I agree
    His all time most insightful post.

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    I think they behave much better in Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HowardRoark View Post
    I think they behave much better in Canada.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    It's amazing how you can tell with near certainty someone's political views based in their views of this crisis. Sad. The two should only have loose correlation.
    Many people enjoy watching the same movie over and over again, but it’s interesting that some people are still surprised when the ending is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mraynrand View Post
    Noble attempt to keep the thread interesting while staying on topic. Though I was disappointed it had no raptor reference.

    Special shout out to the homie Radagast. As shitty as he can be I don’t think he has ever had a thread moved due to posting about politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    Noble attempt to keep the thread interesting while staying on topic. Though I was disappointed it had no raptor reference.

    Special shout out to the homie Radagast. As shitty as he can be I don’t think he has ever had a thread moved due to posting about politics.

    I don't deserve any credit. There are 38 threads about Covid on this site. I have no idea what thread I'm in. I will probably draft Covid in the third round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadtownPacker View Post
    Noble attempt to keep the thread interesting while staying on topic. Though I was disappointed it had no raptor reference.

    Special shout out to the homie Radagast. As shitty as he can be I don’t think he has ever had a thread moved due to posting about politics.
    I'll take my medicine, but I don't think I said anything about politics before this thread was moved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    I'll take my medicine, but I don't think I said anything about politics before this thread was moved.
    In fairness to you an explanation is due. Typically this would get the boot from the Packers area straight to FYI. But it is a legit topic that folks want to discuss so gave it a chance to stay in the Romper room. Was doing fine until the last page. Guessing you thought politics was ok after it was moved. If so I understand the confusion.

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