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    you can't delete a post, it stays there forever as a reminder to everyone in the world that you fucked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by red View Post
    you can't delete a post, it stays there forever as a reminder to everyone in the world that you fucked up

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    Quote Originally Posted by QBME View Post
    and I should (and do) know

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    It's really going to be fun to watch. I'm curious as to whether or how much Love will play in the preseason now that he's The Guy.
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    MLF said Jordan Love would play in the preseason. I'd think that means it's more like the early Rodgers days where he'd play like a quarter one game, then a half, and then nothing.

    I would expect them to tackle better and the offense to execute more cleanly earlier in the season if they play some preseason.

    I think not giving their starters playing time in the preseason was smart from a health standpoint, but bad from a performance standpoint. They often looked slow and overmatched in their first game or two, as though they had to adjust to game speed and working together, timing, etc. MLF probably felt they could take a mulligan in Game 1 of the season with Rodgers and a fully healthy team, with 16 more games to go. Last year must certainly have been the wake up call. An 8-9 team can't afford to give away any games.

    I'll be curious to see what they do about backup QB. They don't have cap space, there's not much out there anyway, and they have to do better than Danny Etling. I'd assume they take a flier on a QB in the draft.

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    I'm on board.

    Anyone who knows me knows I've never been a Rodgers fan. There was a reason he fell to Green Bay in the draft and he's displayed that reason for 18 years.

    He's a head case, always has been. Then of course there is the fact he's never been able to throw a 5 yard out, a screen or a slant. His consistently under throwing, over throwing, dirt balls and the fact he can't hit anyone in stride. This past season he didn't have the cast to make him look good. And for as much as Favre didn't know what defenses he was playing against, Rodgers can't figure it out running the entire play clock down. When the game is on the line, we need 3 yards - Rodgers goes deep. That's not LaFleur, that's Rodgers.

    Last season all he had to to was hand the ball off and let the run set up the pass but he made poor decisions in the RPO and I grew very tired of the Mike McCarthy offense still being around when he isn't.

    It's been a painful 18 years for me to watch this narcissist.

    As for Love, time will tell. He's got the talent, he shown he's matured from season to season. Will it be enough? I guess that depends on the rest of the team. I am a Packer fan and I watch them come hell or high water no matter who is playing on the team. That doesn't mean I can't be pissed off at certain players for thinking they are bigger than the team =).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    I'm on board.

    Anyone who knows me knows I've never been a Rodgers fan. There was a reason he fell to Green Bay in the draft and he's displayed that reason for 18 years.

    He's a head case, always has been. Then of course there is the fact he's never been able to throw a 5 yard out, a screen or a slant. His consistently under throwing, over throwing, dirt balls and the fact he can't hit anyone in stride. This past season he didn't have the cast to make him look good. And for as much as Favre didn't know what defenses he was playing against, Rodgers can't figure it out running the entire play clock down. When the game is on the line, we need 3 yards - Rodgers goes deep. That's not LaFleur, that's Rodgers.

    Last season all he had to to was hand the ball off and let the run set up the pass but he made poor decisions in the RPO and I grew very tired of the Mike McCarthy offense still being around when he isn't.

    It's been a painful 18 years for me to watch this narcissist.

    As for Love, time will tell. He's got the talent, he shown he's matured from season to season. Will it be enough? I guess that depends on the rest of the team. I am a Packer fan and I watch them come hell or high water no matter who is playing on the team. That doesn't mean I can't be pissed off at certain players for thinking they are bigger than the team =).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin View Post
    I'm on board.

    Anyone who knows me knows I've never been a Rodgers fan. There was a reason he fell to Green Bay in the draft and he's displayed that reason for 18 years.

    He's a head case, always has been. Then of course there is the fact he's never been able to throw a 5 yard out, a screen or a slant. His consistently under throwing, over throwing, dirt balls and the fact he can't hit anyone in stride. This past season he didn't have the cast to make him look good. And for as much as Favre didn't know what defenses he was playing against, Rodgers can't figure it out running the entire play clock down. When the game is on the line, we need 3 yards - Rodgers goes deep. That's not LaFleur, that's Rodgers.

    Last season all he had to to was hand the ball off and let the run set up the pass but he made poor decisions in the RPO and I grew very tired of the Mike McCarthy offense still being around when he isn't.

    It's been a painful 18 years for me to watch this narcissist.

    As for Love, time will tell. He's got the talent, he shown he's matured from season to season. Will it be enough? I guess that depends on the rest of the team. I am a Packer fan and I watch them come hell or high water no matter who is playing on the team. That doesn't mean I can't be pissed off at certain players for thinking they are bigger than the team =).
    Yea....so most of that is pure crap.
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    Most of ya'all are "the anti-Tex" - just different shades of wrongheadedness. This piece of shit, Merlin, adds blindness to that wrongheadedness hahahaha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Most of ya'all are "the anti-Tex" - just different shades of wrongheadedness. This piece of shit, Merlin, adds blindness to that wrongheadedness hahahaha.
    Thanks for the compliment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Most of ya'all are "the anti-Tex" - just different shades of wrongheadedness. This piece of shit, Merlin, adds blindness to that wrongheadedness hahahaha.
    Why is he the Anti Tex? You have insulted offended and otherwise beat the brakes off any poster that suggested Rodgers would be gone. You need to thread thru your posts. Anyone who suggested that a Rodgers trade should b made was a hater and a fool. You need to wade thru your lane posts and make a sincere apology to those savvy fans

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    Sadly, when you disagree with someone, instead of offering a fact based logical answer - you have to call them names.

    And I'm the blind piece of shit.
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    Take no heed. Merlin couldn't even be happy when the Packers went to the Super Bowl. http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...ht=#post570733
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    Well he's not completely wrong. Rodgers is a complicated fella after all.
    There were too many RPOs last year, and Rodgers stubbornly let defenses dictate and bait him. Also the important third threat of RPO (the QB run) wasn't a threat.
    He more than occasionally threw deep on 3rd and short, and regularly ignored receivers running free.

    So there are nuggets of on-field truth, and the off field stuff I can live without but it's (usually) tolerable if your QB is MVP or HOF level.

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    Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

    Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

    Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
    It also makes you punt more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

    Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.

    Don't recall that happening very often the last year, or even two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Don't recall that happening very often the last year, or even two.
    And thats the bottom line. No one has a problem with the decision to go deep (think bears, 4th and whatever it was to cobb for the score), we have a problem with the fact that he didn't hit any of them.
    I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    And thats the bottom line. No one has a problem with the decision to go deep (think bears, 4th and whatever it was to cobb for the score), we have a problem with the fact that he didn't hit any of them.
    The Cobb examples are a little different -- the NFCN winner most people think about was a blown coverage and Cobb had about 8 yards on anyone. I get your point though -- there's inherently an armchair QB or hindsight bias-- great if it works, stupid if it doesn't.
    I think it comes down to probability -- if it's 3rd and 8 I'm ok with them taking a swing, you need to get a lot of yards to convert. On 3rd and 2 you just try to convert so you live for another set of downs to work with. Keeping Barry's defense off the field is a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Throwing deep on 3rd and one makes defenses and coordinators have to respect the whole field on every short yardage play. It’s smart, especially if you have a QB who can hit on a few of them too. The reward is more than just the chance of hitting, it makes the times you do run the ball or throw short even more productive too.

    Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
    It's not that Rodgers wasn't justified in throwing deep occasionally on short yardage, it's a question of whether he was doing it too often.

    There is certainly a place for an occasional deep throw on short yardage but there's gotta be a point at which you are doing it too much. If he threw half as many deep balls, would that have been enough to keep the defense honest? Probably.

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