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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    It's not that Rodgers wasn't justified in throwing deep occasionally on short yardage, it's a question of whether he was doing it too often.

    There is certainly a place for an occasional deep throw on short yardage but there's gotta be a point at which you are doing it too much. If he threw half as many deep balls, would that have been enough to keep the defense honest? Probably.
    True. Maybe it was too much. But there are some benefits that go beyond the success rate of the plays. It’s probably not as bad as most fans think in the long run and probably not as good as Rodgers thinks either.
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    Apparently when your season is on the line and you have to have a first down, you throw deep because it keeps the defense on it's toes.

    Which explains why the Packers didn't make the playoffs, Rodgers listened to you as his OC, and apparently did so the entire 2022 season.
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    There's slight uptick in quality, but when we played pickup football after college marching band practice, there was a rocket-armed guy who always wanted to be QB. He'd draw up a play and on every snap would launch it to the furthest receiver downfield. Whenever my side was shorthanded, I would cover two receivers and take the deeper one when they split up. And every dang time, he would throw it right at me.

    Anyway, take that into account with Mr. Chuck It Over The Mountains.
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    Rodgers last pass as a Packer was an INT deep down the right sideline on a 3-10 play. That was too common an occurrence in recent years. (The decision, not the INT).
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    Count me in as a fan of the deep shots on short yardage plays.
    Generally I'm not a fan -- I think you keep moving the chains on a 3rd or 4th and short. On 2nd and short -- absolutely take a shot.

    It's more of a situational thing for me.
    If you're inside FG range and you like your matchup, I could see going for a deep shot, but if you're at 3rd and 2 from your own 35, just pick up the first down and keep marching down the field.

    Throwing deep is a boom-or-bust proposition, and the probability of success is low. Losing Adams hurt Rodgers last year, as did injuries and age.

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    I can see doing it once in a while, to keep defenses honest. But in general, I agree with run on this one. How many times were the Packers in a third-and-short, and we were all waving wildly at the TV, yelling "He's open over the middle!" only to watch Rodgers heave what looked like a desperation throw to a pretty-well-covered receiver? Not only that, but many of those throws weren't even close.

    I also think as others do that Rodgers missed Adams a whole, whole, whole lot. Adams could grab that back-shoulder throw better than anyone I've ever seen, and that includes Jordy Nelson, who was pretty darn good at it.
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    I have no clue how well Love will do, but it is rather exciting to start fresh again. Our expectations are down and so should our disappointments, but all and all, I look forward to rooting the Packers to their next SB..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
    I have no clue how well Love will do, but it is rather exciting to start fresh again. Our expectations are down and so should our disappointments, but all and all, I look forward to rooting the Packers to their next SB..
    I’m with ya, on this. Low expectations, but I have some hope that Love will be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    I’m with ya, on this. Low expectations, but I have some hope that Love will be great.
    I felt this way when I was seventeen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    I felt this way when I was seventeen.
    Did your hopes get dashed, or did you exceed expectations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpe1027 View Post
    Did your hopes get dashed, or did you exceed expectations?
    My hopes were dashed for about thirty years, in large part because I was an immature asshole. But then I (finally) grew up, and that's when I met the love of my life, and expectations were exceeded. By far.
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    Today I learned: Tex was in San Francisco in his youth. Harlan was in Hamburg (presumably, Germany) in his youth.

    In my youth, I once trekked to Reno. Checked into a Super 8 and then drove east to Sparks. Had the pleasure of visiting the Mustang Ranch and Wild Horse. If I ever win enough frogskins playing poker, I’ll go back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
    Today I learned: Tex was in San Francisco in his youth. Harlan was in Hamburg (presumably, Germany) in his youth.

    In my youth, I once trekked to Reno. Checked into a Super 8 and then drove east to Sparks. Had the pleasure of visiting the Mustang Ranch and Wild Horse. If I ever win enough frogskins playing poker, I’ll go back.
    What? (First of all, Fritz, I'm not taking the bait and getting lured into the evil p word you're flirting with, not in this part of the forum anyway.) What's this crap about me in Frisco in my youth? Other than a couple years at the army language school in Monterey and a couple of forays Broadway and North Beach (which some will maybe be familiar with hahahaha), I never went there until a brief vacation a couple of years ago. Who said otherwise?

    Fritz, you can take me completely at face value, both the perceived good and perceived bad. I'm an open book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    What? (First of all, Fritz, I'm not taking the bait and getting lured into the evil p word you're flirting with, not in this part of the forum anyway.) What's this crap about me in Frisco in my youth? Other than a couple years at the army language school in Monterey and a couple of forays Broadway and North Beach (which some will maybe be familiar with hahahaha), I never went there until a brief vacation a couple of years ago. Who said otherwise?

    Fritz, you can take me completely at face value, both the perceived good and perceived bad. I'm an open book.
    I wasn't trying to lure anyone into anything, nor say some view was good or bad. I was merely making a joke about your "Tex" persona being a front.

    I had this thought last night about Jordan Love: if they draft that Hendron Hooker guy from Tennessee, imagine seeing the two of them, standing next to one another, from the stands on game day. Heck, it could even be fun if they draft that Houston QB - Tune, I think his last name is.
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    Tex in San Francisco. I have wondered, occasionally, if "Tex" is sheer invention, and "Tex" is actually some, say, left-wing LGBTQ+ person who gets a kick out of getting all of us riled up here at Packerrats with the made-up persona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    What? (First of all, Fritz, I'm not taking the bait and getting lured into the evil p word you're flirting with, not in this part of the forum anyway.) What's this crap about me in Frisco in my youth? Other than a couple years at the army language school in Monterey and a couple of forays Broadway and North Beach (which some will maybe be familiar with hahahaha), I never went there until a brief vacation a couple of years ago. Who said otherwise?

    Fritz, you can take me completely at face value, both the perceived good and perceived bad. I'm an open book.
    Unless I’m misreading/misunderstanding something, especially the word “Frisco,” looks like you said otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    hahahahaha My point was, you just might have an ax to grind that affected your opinion.

    I'll tell you about my first time in Frisco in the early 70s. I was stationed in Monterey at the army language school. I had a friend who was a chaplain's assistant of all things. We went to North Beach (which I hadn't heard of previously) to get laid (he wasn't exactly a good normal chaplain's assistant). We went to several of the topless bottomless places and finally got up the courage to try some soliciting. We paid the money, followed the girl out the back door supposedly to some sort of room where a couple of big Asian-looking dudes blocked our path and suggested we be on our way or else. We didn't wait around to find out or else what hahahaha.
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    Good job of digging up an old post hahahaha. Yeah, that happened. I thought you were implying I lived there long, though. A couple of day or night trips to the topless/bottomless bars is a far cry from living there.
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    Choo-Choo!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by George Cumby View Post
    Choo-Choo!!!
    LOL
    I'm not on the bandwagon (yet) but I'll be rooting for the Packers and thus him.

    He's got a good arm, is still very young, and has had 3 years in the same system to sit and learn. There's hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    LOL

    He's got a good arm, is still very young, and has had 3 years in the same system to sit and learn. There's hope.

    MLF can now run his offense with a pretty decent stable of weapons. I'm hopeful.

    But the OL......

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