I wanted to see Love as the starter after this happened:
I wanted to see Love as the starter after this happened:
Just compare the pass charts of Rodgers in 2022 and Love in 2023 in Week 18. Rodgers conceded the middle of the field to the defense. Love attacked every area of the field.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Wow, the difference there is stark. Even if JLo isnt the long term guy, I think it was just time.
It was time. Rodgers had 3 completions over 10 yards, and a lot very close to the LOS. That was a common theme last year, and a trend from prior seasons.Originally Posted by call_me_ishmael
The 2022 receivers weren't all that great last year, but I'm not sure Rodgers did them many favors.
Love has been objectively better this year than Rodgers was last year.
https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2022/
https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2023/
Nonetheless, I'm resisting jumping on the bandwagon until about Week 4 next season. It's trending in the right direction though.
2nd week in a row for Love.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Getting hit at the right time can mean a deep run.
Love Reed kraft all smoking hot right now.
I'm at the point of thinking this band wagon is going to be a wagon train
All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
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It's the Love Train, baby!
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
I assume you mean "getting hot" at the right time and not "getting hit."
If that's the case, then I have to agree. And the offense has gone from this, after the Denver game:
To this:
Yup. They got hot at the right time.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
You are a great translator fritzI assume you mean "getting hot" at the right time and not "getting hit."
If that's the case, then I have to agree. And the offense has gone from this, after the Denver game:
To this:
Yup. They got hot at the right time.
All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
Love train baby!
I just paid for qb school patreon. JT was beside himself on the 9 route to the left sideline in the 4th quarter to reed when he almost went out of bounds. He said that’s as good of a throw as you’ll ever see, anywhere. He’s also starting to come around to Love’s fade away. He was like battling with himself whether it’s ok or not, where in the past he was dead against it. Now he’s saying, “well, he’s good at it, I guess if you can do it” one minute and then, “it’s probably not going to work the next time” the next minute. But he’s starting to change his tune and just recognize that Love is really really good fading away. And that’s what I’ve been saying. It works. Damn near every time. So why not. It keeps him out of harms way and there’s no loss. It’s just one of the things that makes Love special. Mahommes has a few of those too, Favre did, Rodgers did. Great ones can do things other guys can’t.
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Of course Love has been better, but you can't separate a QB from his receivers. Rodgers, objectively, had drastically fewer open receivers last year than Love this year. You can't really account for that when comparing one season's numbers to the next.
Lazard and Cobb.
Perhaps Rodgers would have had more open receivers if he had just embraced MLF's offense instead of insisting on changing so many plays at the line and insisting receivers learn his hand signals before they can really be involved in the offense.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Or thrown over the middle.
Huh! That panocha didn’t like risking his stats did he. Stunted team growth on offense the last 5 years.
Back in the day Rodgers didn't avoid the MOF as much as later years.
Rodgers got pretty obsessed with the don't throw interceptions idea - which isn't a bad idea, but once he was the far and away leader in Int% for QB, I think he went some length to protect that record.
Throws over the middle are more likely to get picked than sideline throws. They can be easier throws if you read the coverage properly, and give good opportunities for YAC.
Sideline shots aren't very high percentage, but Rodgers made up for that with stupid WR screens and having insane accuracy.
Personally I understand being careful with turnovers and all, but you have to force a defense to cover the entire field.
On offense you want to expand the space a team has to defend, on defense you want to shrink it.
Having better talent at WR would certainly help - but until last year he didn't exactly have a barren cupboard. He pushed Gute to trade for guys like Cobb or elevate Lazard to WR2. I agree they didn't give him as much help as he should have had but I think there's a sense that he would have ignored it in favor of spamming Adams with throws.
True, but he might also have had some open receivers if Gute invested some draft capital on receivers who could run before 2022.
Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
If only they drafted Tee Higgins instead of Jordan Love...
LOL this was me, along with liking Jalen Hurts better than Jordan Love.
Higgins is a good player and will do well for himself in FA, he also would have really helped out GB's passing game during the 13-3 years.
That said, I can't think of a QB drafted after 2020 who GB would have been able to draft with Love's level of arm talent.
Brock Purdy is good but his arm is not as good as Love's.
I always felt like GB took a QB a year too early, I was wrong. I am this close to being on the bandwagon.
I'll say this much: having 3 consecutive above average QBs is more than a statistical anomaly. At this point you have to assume it is related to not having an owner forcing the coaches to play a draft pick before they are ready. Taking a prospect with the tools and giving them time to refine and improve their game must have some benefits. Look at the CAR owner -- overruling people to trade for Bryce Young and then pushing into a bad situation will set them back for years and propel the Bears.
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