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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    So harv great 17 minute video. I actually watch the whole thing. Some people are calling him a Randy Moss or MVS clone but I'm thinking more Julio Jones. My best guess is he's instantly an upgrade from MVS.

    As for tex thinking we upgraded with Watkins and Watson. That's just crazy. Watkins is a poor man's devonte, but that's kind of an insult to poor people. He's more like a flat broke. No checkbook, shot credit eating out of a garbage can devonte. That production is going to have to be made up for through every single guy on the offense.
    I'm thinking more along the lines of Watkins an upgrade from MVS (even though not exactly the same type WR), and Watson a sure long term upgrade on Adams and at least comparable even in the first couple years - net upgrade with the two over the outgoing too. Of course, Doubs has to beat out St. Brown hahahaha for the trifecta. Do you know anything about Doubs, being from Nevada, bobblehead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Watkins is a poor man's devonte, but that's kind of an insult to poor people. He's more like a flat broke. No checkbook, shot credit eating out of a garbage can devonte. That production is going to have to be made up for through every single guy on the offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Sometimes I amuse myself...but I defy anyone to tell me I was wrong.
    I thought he looked decent before his injury this year. Since he came back he looks like he's either not 100%, or he's afraid to run all out for fear of injuring the hamstring again. Which is exactly what happened to him last year. Got hurt and hardly had any catches after he came back from the injury. His snap count is going down (22/36% last night), so maybe we'll see Toure more.
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    Great, he can block.

    Problem is he doesnt catch well.

    I guess you have to have your priorities.


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    A pass catcher whos not good at catching passes. Dysfunction.

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    Are you talking about Watson or Doubs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    Are you talking about Watson or Doubs?
    Watson. I could care less about some late round flyer. Using two premium picks on a pass catcher whos not good at catching passes doesnt make a lick of sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Watson. I could care less about some late round flyer. Using two premium picks on a pass catcher whos not good at catching passes doesnt make a lick of sense.
    He had 2 drops with lance as his QB. Drops can often be a guy trying to do too much with limited chances. His hands look good on tape.
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    My first thought about Doubs is I think I'd rather have Malik Taylor. I'm willing to give him a chance to prove otherwise though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RashanGary View Post
    Watson. I could care less about some late round flyer. Using two premium picks on a pass catcher whos not good at catching passes doesnt make a lick of sense.

    I can't tell if you are being serious; you are always kinda a GUTE homer. Do you really not like Watson ? I think he has the chance to be a stud.

    Now, honestly, I would have definitely not traded 2 second round draft picks for him. I'd have employed HW's strategy of waiting til there were 2 WR's I really liked and traded up then. AND if Alex Pierce is one of the guys you wanted, and Tolbert, both were there at 53 so we could have kept out picks.

    Since Gute overpaid to move up, we have to assume he loved Watson and really considered him a class above the guys like Sky Moore, Pierce, Tolbert, and Pickens

    I'm going to wait and see if it works
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    I watched the video, and I saw no indication he can't catch - a lot of imperfect passes from I think two different QBs, and he snagged them. As for the two premium picks, in hindsight, I wish they had taken him and Wyatt in the first and passed on Walker - keeping both second rounders. But if the choice is paying that price or not getting him, I'm damn glad they paid the price.
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    I'm ok with the pick, but the process was a little meh. Giving up BOTH R2's to Minny felt like a lot, and I'm hearing people say they effectively lost the equivalent of a late R3 on the trade value charts.
    So... that part hurts.
    Also, Watson is a project, which means he has upside but also that he has a long way to go. That's fine and all, and maybe you put him in the MVS role and let him be your KR and gunner for good measure. He'll have to play ST since Cobb and Watkins likely won't, and you need big fast guys there. So he can contribute in some ways right away, but it's a pretty big investment for a WR4 and KR. Of course, next year he might come back into the 2023 training camp and be an absolute monster, which is not nothing. If he becomes GB's version of DK, this looks pretty good.

    As for his hands, I don't think they're bad but I do think they need work. Almost every WR that comes into pros does; pro QBs throw with such velocity it's incredible. He supposedly works at the Juggs machine daily and he'll want to continue that. I hope Cobb takes him and Amari under his wing and makes them do the crazy Juggs drills Jordy and others used to do.... he'll be ok. MVS's hands weren't great but they improved, and Davante worked on his hands a lot.

    I think he's more flexible and has a bigger frame than MVS. His speed translates to the field, and word is he's a hard worker and good kid, so he's a good addition. He'll block and do the things they ask him to do, and honestly you could argue that Drake London isn't that much better than this kid.

    I'll be rooting big time for him, and he has a lot of upside. I just think they paid a lot to get him and worry the Packers coaches might fail to develop his potential.

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    I'm ok with the pick, but the process was a little meh. Giving up BOTH R2's to Minny felt like a lot, and I'm hearing people say they effectively lost the equivalent of a late R3 on the trade value charts.
    So... that part hurts.
    Also, Watson is a project, which means he has upside but also that he has a long way to go. That's fine and all, and maybe you put him in the MVS role and let him be your KR and gunner for good measure. He'll have to play ST since Cobb and Watkins likely won't, and you need big fast guys there. So he can contribute in some ways right away, but it's a pretty big investment for a WR4 and KR. Of course, next year he might come back into the 2023 training camp and be an absolute monster, which is not nothing. If he becomes GB's version of DK, this looks pretty good.

    As for his hands, I don't think they're bad but I do think they need work. Almost every WR that comes into pros does; pro QBs throw with such velocity it's incredible. He supposedly works at the Juggs machine daily and he'll want to continue that. I hope Cobb takes him and Amari under his wing and makes them do the crazy Juggs drills Jordy and others used to do.... he'll be ok. MVS's hands weren't great but they improved, and Davante worked on his hands a lot.

    I think he's more flexible and has a bigger frame than MVS. His speed translates to the field, and word is he's a hard worker and good kid, so he's a good addition. He'll block and do the things they ask him to do, and honestly you could argue that Drake London isn't that much better than this kid.

    I'll be rooting big time for him, and he has a lot of upside. I just think they paid a lot to get him and worry the Packers coaches might fail to develop his potential.
    What's ironic is that it's been reported that the Packers started trying to trade up for him at pick #30, so they obviously really liked him. They offered the same compensation to the teams above the Vikings (including the Vikings at pick #32). The offers were rejected. If the offer had been accepted, the Packers would look good on the trade value chart. In the end it didn't matter because they got the same player for the same price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    What's ironic is that it's been reported that the Packers started trying to trade up for him at pick #30, so they obviously really liked him. They offered the same compensation to the teams above the Vikings (including the Vikings at pick #32). The offers were rejected. If the offer had been accepted, the Packers would look good on the trade value chart. In the end it didn't matter because they got the same player for the same price.
    I really wish they would have slipped into round one so we get that fifth year option
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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    I'm ok with the pick, but the process was a little meh. Giving up BOTH R2's to Minny felt like a lot, and I'm hearing people say they effectively lost the equivalent of a late R3 on the trade value charts.
    So... that part hurts.
    Also, Watson is a project, which means he has upside but also that he has a long way to go. That's fine and all, and maybe you put him in the MVS role and let him be your KR and gunner for good measure. He'll have to play ST since Cobb and Watkins likely won't, and you need big fast guys there. So he can contribute in some ways right away, but it's a pretty big investment for a WR4 and KR. Of course, next year he might come back into the 2023 training camp and be an absolute monster, which is not nothing. If he becomes GB's version of DK, this looks pretty good.

    As for his hands, I don't think they're bad but I do think they need work. Almost every WR that comes into pros does; pro QBs throw with such velocity it's incredible. He supposedly works at the Juggs machine daily and he'll want to continue that. I hope Cobb takes him and Amari under his wing and makes them do the crazy Juggs drills Jordy and others used to do.... he'll be ok. MVS's hands weren't great but they improved, and Davante worked on his hands a lot.

    I think he's more flexible and has a bigger frame than MVS. His speed translates to the field, and word is he's a hard worker and good kid, so he's a good addition. He'll block and do the things they ask him to do, and honestly you could argue that Drake London isn't that much better than this kid.

    I'll be rooting big time for him, and he has a lot of upside. I just think they paid a lot to get him and worry the Packers coaches might fail to develop his potential.
    Well on paper the Vikings didn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bretsky View Post
    Well on paper the Vikings didn
    Quite typing apostrophes. I'm so tired of this happening to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
    Quite typing apostrophes. I'm so tired of this happening to me.
    I did a long reply from cell and there was no apostrohes
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    To runpnc. On paper the vikes didn’t get fair value in trading down with Detroit so they were looking for somebody to overpay to get value back. I have much higher expectations for Watson year one then you do . I think we can see 800 yards and 60 to 70 receptions if Green Bay doesn’t add a veteran wr
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    Rg you need to get out of the old fritz Rashan Gary zone. I was there with fritz. I am supposed to be the questioner of gutebag and you function as his attorney
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