Absolutely agree you continue to start AR if they're mathematically still alive. I'd be good, though, if once they ARE eliminated, to just AR down for the rest of the year. He's getting older. No reason to put unneccessary miles on him. See what we have in Love. Maybe improve our draft status.Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Packers now 14th pick.
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figures; I said we'd end up between 16-18. Maybe we'll be lower
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
Way too early to think about the draft.
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https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-offensi...s-week-14-2022
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...offensive-line
Packers OL ranked third in the league by PFF, 2nd by FO. For the grousing about OL and certain players, think of how much worse it can be.
Before anyone throws roses at the QB and trash at the OL in an attempt to dispute these -- these are OL stats, not QB stats. If you think you know better, provide data/proof.
All of this to say that there's a good chance they try to trade/redo Bahktiari and likely lose Jenkins to someone with a shipping container of cash/cap space (cough, Bears) and thus need to look at OL. Wouldn't shock me if they go defense early and double up on OL early day 3. They have atrocious luck in R3 but good luck in R4.
They could have Tom, Runyan, and Njiman as starters next year -- none of them acquired before Day 3. That's impressive.
I agree it's early. Need to get a better sense of who is declaring, and where draft position is. Also need to see if any of the younger/fringe players are worth keeping. Lotta games left for that yet.
They need a new DC, but they'll also need EDGE, DL, S, WR, TE and OL. If they trade/cut Aaron Jones (unlikely, but he is 29) they need a RB.
The number could change a lot. Right now there are 7 teams at 5-8, and of those teams Packers would be picking last because they have the strongest strength of schedule.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
With wins by Browns and Jags, Packers move up to 11th pick.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
10th thanks to Patriots/Raiders.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Packers back to 14th pick.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
And that’s about how they look too, isn’t it. Middle of the road.
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This sums it up. And in conjunction with the idea that if we lose to Miami and have a .8% chance of making the playoffs so Rodgers should still start because we are mathematically not eliminated I call bullshit. Rodgers has all the weapons available now, and a good OL. He still looks pedestrian. We need to see Love in extended action, even if your theory is that Rodgers is the QB next year. It hurts the franchise to NOT put him on the field either for our own benefit, or trade benefit.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
I’m with you on this. If we lose to the Dolphins it makes no sense to keep Love on the sidelines.
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A Packers loss combined with a Commanders win over Seahawks would eliminate the Packers from the playoffs.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
In what planet is 11 vs 14th worth not scrapping your way to the playoffs?
If this were Fall of 2010 - I wonder how many here would trade a ring to move up a couple draft spots…
I think it is worth it. But the difference is that in 2010 a lot of people felt that if the Packers could get in the playoffs, they had a defense good enough to make a Super Bowl run. Not sure a lot of people feel that way this year. Now if they can play well against a very good Miami offense, that still might change.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
“ The data suggest that teams negotiating draft positions assign roughly the same value for picks 12-20 and exponentially higher or lower values for picks near the beginning or end of the round.”
https://www.casino.org/features/nfl-draft/
I believe it. Usually there are numerous tiers of players and by the teens it's unlikely there is a bonafide elite player available. (Yes, you can get lucky and hit on a player.)
By the time you get to 28 teams maybe jockeying to get into the 1st round to get a player eligible for 5th your option. The more years you can control the contract of a young player the better.
It's way too early, but right now I feel like if they just miss the playoffs and end up with the 14th pick or something, they should pull a 2018 and trade down and get more picks. I doubt they will.
I've come around to the belief that GB (Ted/Gute) has a "Don't draft WRs in R1" rule. I think they need to draft another WR unless they bring both Lazard and Cobb back (which is an iffy idea at best). They need to get better at TE also.
You think we're picking 14th if we make the playoffs ?
The dagger was in this season long ago; just not our year; my hope is long gone
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
I don’t care if it’s a top 5 or bottom 5 1st round pick / if you have a 50% shot if you win out - you 100% take it. There’s no tanking in Packer land.
And the 14th vs 11th was the reference to the inane discussion above about current draft order. Ie - we should have lost to the Bears and everyone else and we’d have a top 10 pick.
To pick the likes of Mandarich or Hawk?
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