Or just an average one.Originally Posted by Fritz
Or just an average one.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
LOL!!!!!
Maybe it just means the price isn't exorbitant.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
You think Rodgers is literally going to this dark room thing by himself? Do you think he has security detail?
It seems super risky to go somewhere where folks know you have nothing in the way of security, communication, etc.
Anyone just think it's a BS story and he's not actually doing that for four days? That seems like a gigantic waste of time.
Ish, that seems like EXACTLY the kind of thing Rodgers would do.
Not sure how the security part would work. Maybe the facility has private security all over the place. And someone to greet you after four days without light, to re-orient you. Bet that messes a person up.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
Might just go to his five-car garage and have an epiphany after tripping over the lawnmower.
I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.
We should have a packerrats field trip and show up on day 2 of his darkness retreat to get his autograph!
Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
Part of me wonders how good this team could be if they had a Corey Linsley type guy at center and a prime Bryan Bulaga at RT. Those mid-2010 lines were so dominant. I would like to see the Packers draft some big uglies high and continue to build the team through the OL and DL. It seems like there is almost always a WR type player available via trade or something if they need a weapon.
Not sure if drafting high is always the key though. Sitton, Lang, Tretter, Bakhtiari were 4th round picks. Linsley was a 5th round pick. On the other hand, Myers and Jason Spriggs were 2nd round picks. Bottom line is, you have to make some good picks no matter what the round is. Gute has traded away quite a few mid-round picks to move up in draft. Maybe he needs to keep more of those picks so he has more shots of getting one right. Zach Tom is looking like a good 4th round pick. Hopefully we'll see more of those.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Hard to believe Myers isn't appreciated. We never had much inside running with Linsley. Myers is about as good for pass blocking and way better for run blocking.
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You and maybe Myers' mother are the only ones who think he is as good as Linsley.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
HAHAHAHA this.
Myers is not as good as Linsley, and it's not particularly close. Myers hasn't been a disaster, but he's been mediocre and possibly even a slight disappointment. I would not be shocked if they don't bring in stronger competition for him this offseason. You might want to revisit some of your posts re: Linsley, especially in his contract year with GB.
You can find pretty good OL all over the place in the draft and occasionally UDFAs. Those tend to be IOL; most OT are R1 and R2 picks. Bakhtiari is a rare Day 3 LT who played well enough to get All Pro and Pro Bowl nods. If you look back over the last 10-15 years you won't see many of those in end of season lists.
The vast majority of All-Pro OL and DL actually are taken in R1 or R2, it's been proven you can find TEs and WRs later. In other words, there is some statistical proof that drafting big men (and QBs) early is a good strategy.
1) We had great inside running with Lindsey. 2) Myers was damn good his rookie year, but regressed this last season. Not totally uncommon coming off an injury. I'll be interested in year 3.
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
How do you Linley overraters and Myers detractors explain the excellent inside running game we've had the past two seasons - far better than we had with Linsley as Center?
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Can you provide proof that it's 'far better'? What does 'far better' mean?
There are statistics that tell you the offense did poorly on 4th downs and also inside the 5 with Myers at starter this year compared with 2 years ago.
Well, Tex has been complaining for years that Bach sucks and we can't run outside zone. So that means we can only run inside zone. And Tex remembers that one play where Myers had a good block so he must be better.
Actual numbers:
2022: 456 attempts, 2,113 yards, 12 TDs, 4.63 YPC
2021: 446 attempts, 1,900 yards, 13 TDs, 4.26 YPC
2020: 443 attempts, 2,118 yards, 16 TDs, 4.78 YPC
2019: 411 attempts, 1,795 yards, 18 TDs, 4.37 YPC
2018: 333 attempts, 1,667 yards, 14 TDs, 5.01 YPC
Of course totals don't tell you what the play call was or not.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
At least you got your last line right. I'm fairly sure a whole lot more of those successful runs were up the middle/in the guard-center gap. And a lot of failed outside runs were to Bakhtiari's side. Claiming Myers had a good block on "one play" is both blind and stupid. Somebody said Myers regressed after the injury in his second season ....... maybe some. It's also possible the Guard play wasn't as good.
As for Linsley, he was good too, although I still don't think he was as good as Myers. And Linsley was commanding way too much money. It was a good move to let him go.
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Do I need to explain something you are wrong about??
I don't hold Grudges. It's counterproductive.
Also: when looking at totals consider the last two years have included a 17th game.
Tex, as my gramp would say, "Your eyes must be brown, cause you are full of shit"
Cease and desist with your evaluation of Oline personnel.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
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