Official Free Agency/Offseason Thread

[run pMc]

To those who say "the cap can be cooked" -- it can, but not to an unlimited extent. The restructuring they are currently doing will cost them next year. Rodgers -- if he's back -- has a $59M bonus. If he retires after next season he has a Post-June 1 22.7M cap hit in 2024 and a 45.4M cap in 2025. That's on top of the restructured money you just kicked to 2024. What happens when you've kicked out 40-50M of money taking up 20% of your 2024 salary cap? What happens if you kick it further out, piling on top of the 45M Rodgers would count?

Cook away, sooner or later you won't be able to field a team (see: Bears).

If you only look at the team for 2023, they are better off at QB with Rodgers. If you look at the team over the next 3 years they are better off without him and giving Love a shot.
If he sucks you don't have to exercise his 5th year option and are likely drafting Caleb Williams or Drake May (both better prospects IMO than Jordan Love).
If he doesn't suck you have your next QB and can use the 5th year option to buy time to hammer out an extension. Either way, if Rodgers is gone you'd have the cap space to do it. You don't right now.

[SudsMcBucky]

If you only look at the team for 2023, they are better off at QB with Rodgers. If you look at the team over the next 3 years they are better off without him and giving Love a shot.
If he sucks you don't have to exercise his 5th year option and are likely drafting Caleb Williams or Drake May (both better prospects IMO than Jordan Love).
If he doesn't suck you have your next QB and can use the 5th year option to buy time to hammer out an extension. Either way, if Rodgers is gone you'd have the cap space to do it. You don't right now.

That's not true, though. They won't have the 2023 season to evaluate to see if they should or shouldn't exercise his 5th year option. They have to decided that THIS offseason, before seeing how he'd do if they turned the reigns over to him in '23.

[run pMc]

That's not true, though. They won't have the 2023 season to evaluate to see if they should or shouldn't exercise his 5th year option. They have to decided that THIS offseason, before seeing how he'd do if they turned the reigns over to him in '23.

Yeah, but it's not until May 3, and I suspect they know whether they want to or not. It's a question of if they can.
They won't be able to afford both Rodgers and Love's 5th year option without some major cap gymnastics.
If Rodgers comes back for one more season and then retires and they don't exercise Love's 5th year option they have nobody at QB and Rodgers retirement cap hit.

[SudsMcBucky]

Yeah, but it's not until May 3, and I suspect they know whether they want to or not. It's a question of if they can.
They won't be able to afford both Rodgers and Love's 5th year option without some major cap gymnastics.
If Rodgers comes back for one more season and then retires and they don't exercise Love's 5th year option they have nobody at QB and Rodgers retirement cap hit.

But that's not what you said. Your post said "if Love sucks, then........." The point is, they're gonna have to make that option decision BEFORE they really know if he sucks or not. They're not going to learn anything new between in the next 2 months.

[run pMc]

But that's not what you said. Your post said "if Love sucks, then........." The point is, they're gonna have to make that option decision BEFORE they really know if he sucks or not. They're not going to learn anything new between in the next 2 months.

OK, so if Love sucks and Rodgers is gone -- if they have him on the 5th year they have a sucky QB who can bridge to their next QB they got in the draft.
If he sucks and he's NOT on the 5th year, they start over with a new QB.
If he's great and he's not on the 5th year they have to compete with others to sign him, which could be iffy considering they made him sit for 3 years and he clearly wants to play.
etc.

It's true they will have to decide on the 5th year option without having seen him play much.
I do think they already know if Love is good or not and will option him depending on what happens with Rodgers.
I don't see how they can 5th year option him AND afford a 59M payout for Rodgers on their cap. We'll probably know what they're doing with Rodgers before they decide on Love.