Did I say "fail"? I just said "mediocrity". We're in the division with perennial losers, the Bears and Lions, and perennial choke artists in the Vikings. So it's not out of the question to be better than most of them most of the time. Just the same, though, without Rodgers or Favre, it's hard to imagine the Packers being any better than the league average, which is pretty much what mediocre means.