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    Jake Hanson waived/injured.

    Rashan Gary taking part in team reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    Jake Hanson waived/injured.

    Rashan Gary taking part in team reps.
    Sure seems like the team is going to ride it out with Myers. If he doesn't play at a top-notch level, my guess is that next off-season they'll take another whack at the center position fairly early in the draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    Sure seems like the team is going to ride it out with Myers. If he doesn't play at a top-notch level, my guess is that next off-season they'll take another whack at the center position fairly early in the draft.
    They will stick with Myers for now. Other than the bad snap, most people seem to think that Myers played quite well against the Patriots. Did not give up a pressure and the Packers ran the ball effectively when he was in there. But the bad snaps have to stop.

    Myers talked about he bad snap.

    https://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...r/70653271007/

    Myers, the center, is trained to snap the football anytime a defender jumps across the line of scrimmage. The problem was, Uche started from nowhere near the line of scrimmage. He was 2 yards off when he took two quick steps forward, enticed by Love’s hard count. Uche stopped himself before reaching the line, digging his left hand into the ground as a makeshift brake.

    Myers snapped anyway.

    Love wasn’t expecting the snap. Wasn’t even looking at Myers. Standing back in the shotgun, he tried to react. Love reached both hands up for the football, but it was approaching too quickly, and now it was sailing through his hands, bouncing back toward the Packers end zone.

    “In the moment,” Myers said, “I was like, ‘We’ve got him.’ Then when I saw the ball soar, I was like, ‘Oh (expletive). But we’re fine. We’ve got a penalty.’ Then I turned around and looked for it, and I was like, ‘Holy (expletive). Where’s the penalty?’”

    Myers didn’t see a penalty flag for good reason. Uche jumped, but he never crossed the line. Instead of a free play, this third-and-5 very much counted, regrettably. Uche chased after the bouncing football, in a footrace with Love. Both went sliding for it around the 20-yard line, some 20 yards into the backfield.

    Uche recovered it at the 18.


    The Patriots had a touchdown and 7-0 lead five plays later.

    “Those are tough decisions,” coach Matt LaFleur said. “Because, yeah, you want to take advantage of those situations. We had a couple come up in practice over the last couple practices that got whistled dead by the officials, and it’s such a fine line. Because you have to be on time when the offensive lineman, whoever is on top of the defensive player, when they move that snap has to come. If not, they’re going to whistle it dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joemailman View Post
    They will stick with Myers for now. Other than the bad snap, most people seem to think that Myers played quite well against the Patriots. Did not give up a pressure and the Packers ran the ball effectively when he was in there. But the bad snaps have to stop.

    Myers talked about he bad snap.

    https://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...r/70653271007/
    You may know how I feel about "other than" statements. Other than handing the Patriots the ball in our RedZone and handicapping our D while giving the first score/lead/momentum to NE he was pretty good.

    edit: I will credit you with saying they have to stop though. They absolutely have to stop.
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    #Packers practice: ILB De’Vondre Campbell back working. LS Matt Orzech back on the roster and taking part. WRs Romeo Doubs (hamstring) and Dontayvion Wicks (ankle) working out on the side. S Darnell Savage (unknown) not present. TE Ben Sims and S Zayne Anderson are here.
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    Maybe we traded Savage for a used unwashed jock strap!! That would be a good move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Maybe we traded Savage for a used unwashed jock strap!! That would be a good move.
    And THEN play who at safety????

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    Quote Originally Posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
    And THEN play who at safety????
    Pretty much anyone. Although I'm hoping Savage did some soul searching about staying on his assignments in the offseason. I have been an anti savage guy almost since the day we traded up to draft him. Tons of physical skills though. But the NFL scrapheap is littered with 4.4 40's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Pretty much anyone. Although I'm hoping Savage did some soul searching about staying on his assignments in the offseason. I have been an anti savage guy almost since the day we traded up to draft him. Tons of physical skills though. But the NFL scrapheap is littered with 4.4 40's.
    I think it's pretty clear all at 1265 think DS is the best of what's available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
    I think it's pretty clear all at 1265 think DS is the best of what's available.
    I think its clear that they are invested in him. I also think they really regret picking up the 5th year option. Best of whats available? I'm not so sure that is clearly their thinking. I think we have 3 guys who are all similar and they are most invested in Savage succeeding.

    I will be cheering for him to have a good year though. I'm not invested in being right about him. And guys can improve on mental issues, it does happen. Maybe he picked up Rasul's study habits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    Pretty much anyone. Although I'm hoping Savage did some soul searching about staying on his assignments in the offseason. I have been an anti savage guy almost since the day we traded up to draft him. Tons of physical skills though. But the NFL scrapheap is littered with 4.4 40's.
    Actually I've read Packers coaches were impressed with how Savage handled his benching last year. Was reinserted as starter last 2 games and played well. I think he'll have a good year.
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    That's a level of maturity that a lot of pro football players honestly do not have. If that's true, it's great to hear.

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    That's a level of maturity that a lot of pro football players honestly do not have. If that's true, it's great to hear.
    Frankly, it's a level of maturity a lot of people don't have. Not just pro football players.

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    I think Savage is a bad fit in Barry's defense. He was a bit of a project as a draft pick and hasn't really progressed to where you'd like to see him. He's still very talented and will make the occasional play, but that's just it - he's inconsistent. There's a chance last year and this being a contract year will light a fire under him, but camp reports haven't indicated he's playing much better.

    If we get 'adequate' play out the safeties this year it will be a win. Not trying to be a downer, but I'm not sure any of the safeties on the roster are even average. Next year the safety room will be completely overhauled - only Anthony Johnson Jr. is under contract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by run pMc View Post
    I think Savage is a bad fit in Barry's defense. He was a bit of a project as a draft pick and hasn't really progressed to where you'd like to see him. He's still very talented and will make the occasional play, but that's just it - he's inconsistent. There's a chance last year and this being a contract year will light a fire under him, but camp reports haven't indicated he's playing much better.

    If we get 'adequate' play out the safeties this year it will be a win. Not trying to be a downer, but I'm not sure any of the safeties on the roster are even average. Next year the safety room will be completely overhauled - only Anthony Johnson Jr. is under contract.
    You know that position will be completely overhauled in the next draft. As will the center position and the running back position.
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    And you can get passable centers and potentially good running backs in the middle rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz View Post
    And you can get passable centers and potentially good running backs in the middle rounds.
    Agreed. I'm terrified they reach for some guys with all that capital next year. Just go BPA and let the chips fall. Dominant blockers make wilson look great. You don't need to take RBs early. Our past few centers were really good mid round picks. If there is a next derwin james available I'm all for the pick....but reaching for the next savage because we have a need....
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    I just read this on online:

    "I was impressed with Luke Musgrave in the preseason. If you compare his willingness to pass block and his fight to some of the other teams that faced the Patriots, for example, it stands out. While Musgrave, like all tight ends, is going to have to develop as he faces more complex pass rushes, wanting to get better and displaying basic competency in stressful situations is a great starting point. And having a dual threat blocker, big-bodied receiver in that offense, is a code breaker."

    It mirrors my thoughts. If Luke fulfils his potential, this is a scary 2024 team. Of course we need many others to progress as well, but the foundation is laid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobblehead View Post
    I just read this on online:

    "I was impressed with Luke Musgrave in the preseason. If you compare his willingness to pass block and his fight to some of the other teams that faced the Patriots, for example, it stands out. While Musgrave, like all tight ends, is going to have to develop as he faces more complex pass rushes, wanting to get better and displaying basic competency in stressful situations is a great starting point. And having a dual threat blocker, big-bodied receiver in that offense, is a code breaker."

    It mirrors my thoughts. If Luke fulfils his potential, this is a scary 2024 team. Of course we need many others to progress as well, but the foundation is laid.
    We have a couple shots at a TE panning out. Musgrave or Kraft. I guess Musgrave has a little higher ceiling based on measurables, but Krafts measurables are good enough that if he puts the rest together his ceiling is high too.
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    Don't forget Ben Sims.

    RAS: Ben Sims, Baylor

    If you run him as an H-back/FB comparison, one of his closest RAS profile comps is... Brandon Bostick.

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