Originally Posted by texaspackerbacker
Tex, they had burned their bridges with Adams; he was 100 percent gone before the offer was made. Maybe it was genuine; maybe it was not.
And then they leaked it to the press so Gutebag could try to look better after losing his Stud WR
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
You say that like you KNOW hahahahaha. Other than shit spewed by media pukes, what makes you think the Packers alienated Adams? It makes more sense to take Adams at face value - the reasons he SAID he took less money to go to the Raiders. Yeah, leaking that made Gutekunst look better - as he should have looked, given the facts, at least if his words were true.
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it's common knowledge around here Tex. You can choose to be in another world far away from reality if you choose to . I'm not going to close my eyes, say lalala and ignore everything that's going on.
LIFE IS ABOUT CHAMPIONSHIPS; I JUST REALIZED THIS. The MILWAUKEE BUCKS have won the same number of championships over the past 50 years as the Green Bay Packers. Ten years from now, who will have more championships, and who will be the fart in the wind ?
It's been covered by sportswriters and confirmed by Adams himself that GB essentially offered what LV was willing to pay. Adams wanted to be closer to the West Coast and his family, and he was still very close with his college QB Carr.
Adams is a pretty standup guy with the press and hasn't indicated he has bad feelings towards Gute or GB per se. It's possible they low balled him or wanted to delay contract talks the year before, but in his final year with GB I know the front office wanted to keep him and made a real attempt to do so.
Don't believe us? Go ask Adams, or Tom Silverstein or Matt Schneidmann.
"Media pukes" are the people who provide this information. You're insulting the people who provide you with it, that's bad manners akin to insulting the chef at the restaurant where you're dining.
The Internet itself is a medium. If you don't like "media", stay away from TV, radio, newspapers, and the internet. If you can't do that, stop being naive and clicking anything with Packer in the title and stick to reputable sources
Yet Bretsky says it's "common knowledge" otherwise. I agree, why not take Adams at his own word.
And hell yeah, I hate media pukes for a LOT of reasons - not limited to the Packers, not limited to football, not even limited to sports - I dare not say more on that topic hahahaha. But in this case, all they did was apparently accurately portray what Adams said - no "he said this, but we know better and we think he meant this" which so often happens. It's Bretsky with his "common knowledge" thing doing that here.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was like you say, run pMc, they lowballed him at first or tried to get him at a discount to keep the team together. Then they came through with the offer to meet or beat what the Raiders were offering. If that was the case, Gutekunst was merely playing the game as a GM is supposed to do, and if that pissed off Adams, he, Adams, is the villain and/or should have known better. And it's weird to blame Gutekunst for merely stating what he did for the record. He just ended up making the best of a bad situation. He probably was pretty much in that same situation with the Rodgers mess - once Rodgers made that fateful statement on McAfee.
So here we are, having potentially the best team in the NFL - other than at QB, and if lightning strikes a third time/Vince lobbies God hard enough, and Love turns out to be quality, everything is fine. If not, we put up with mediocrity for at least a few years.
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"If not, we put up with mediocrity for at least a few years."
Tex, your unfailing optimism just can't be tamped down. A couple months ago it was going to be a disaster, and now you've moved up to "mediocrity."
Another month and you'll have them in the playoffs!
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A bit of truth in that hahahaha. I'm getting slowly psyched up the season. Love doesn't need to have Rodgers' arm. Just adequate passing and Rodgers' mindset to not throw interceptions should be enough on this otherwise loaded team to go a long way. I'll stick with about 8-9, though, as I'm not sure Love is up to both the physical and mental.
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Just some dead zone thoughts:
Parity is the norm in the NFL. Last year three 9-8 teams and one 8-9 team made the playoffs. Parity does not apply, however, when it comes to winning Super Bowls.
There are currently 10 NFL teams that have gone 50+ years without winning a Super Bowl. (Cardinals, Lions, Vikings, Browns, Chargers, Bills, Oilers/Titans, Falcons, Bengals, Jets).
Conversely, there are 10 NFL teams that have won 42 of the 57 Super Bowls (Steelers (6), Patriots (6), 49ers (5), Cowboys (5), Giants (4), Packers (4), Chiefs (3), Broncos (3), Redskins (3), Raiders (3).
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in - Leonard Cohen
Supposedly Rodgers is talking about playing multiple seasons for the Jets - no surprise there, to me at least. I'm betting he plays excellent football this year and beyond, but the Jets still manage to be nothing special. About 8-9 or 9-8 sounds about right for them too even with the GOAT playing like he has most of his career.
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Jets were a 7-10 team with Zach Wilson, Mike Wilson, and Joe Flacco as their QBs with the most attempts, in that order. How the hell can Rodgers play excellent football and only win one more game?
Yeah that doesn't scan. The Jets have a good roster. They should win at least 11 this year.
Rodgers is NOT the GOAT.
This is true. At his peak he was special, but he's not the GOAT.
He is and has been a better player than Brady. Is there some other GOAT candidate out there? Haters hating on Rodgers doesn't take away from his ability and accomplishments.
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I'll never hate on Rodgers play. He was/is elite, but yes, Brady is the GOAT. Hell, I'd put Montana over AR as closer to goat, too, but Brady just flat out got it done when big stakes were on the line. That's just facts.
Agree 100%, including re: Montana.
Rodgers is easily more talented than Brady, but Brady has all the stats, including most regular season wins and postseason wins, and a lot of SB rings too.
https://www.statspros.com/aaron-rodg...m-brady-stats/
Johnny Unitas: Think of what he could do in todays age of flag football offense.
The Packers signed Alex McGough to backup first-year starter Jordan Love in 2023 after a team workout on Tuesday, July 18, according to Bill Huber of FanNation’s Packer Central.
I wouldn't even put Montana ahead of Steve Young.
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This tells me that the Packers need to win 3 straight SB's to get back on top of this list and to flex on the league as the only franchise to win 3 championships in a row, and do it for the 3rd time.
Fire Murphy, Gute, MLF, Barry, Senavich, etc!
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